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    Syrian rue ingestion

    Whats your favourite method of preparing and ingesting this?
    It's so disgusting.. I found the taste way more horrible then that of the mimosa extract even though I could somehow keep it in much easier.
    Is there a good way of ingesting P. Harmala seeds that works well that isn't absolutely disgusting?
    Perhaps powder it and then put the powder in a capsule/capsules?
    Or will I just have to learn to live with this?
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    I only tried it once. I powdered it and put it in hot water for 15 minutes. Then drank it (I think including the powder). I didn't find it that disgusting, but can imagine you disagree.
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    it's disgusting!

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    Well at least you can imagine
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    Peganum

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    The perfect answer
    Thanks!
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    do not eat capsule of pure seeds!!

    even though some people recommend it, thats not a safe way..

    you want to get rid of the quizanoline compounds.. They are not (or little) soluble in acidified water, while the b-carbolines, which are the chemicals you want, are very soluble in acidified water..

    so just boiling the broken/grinded seeds for a few minutes in water with lemon juice, then filtering and saving the liquid, and repeating process with the solid material 2 more times..

    then throw out material, keep just liquid, reduce it to smaller amount, put honey on it (to diminish astringency, makes it taste better), let it cool and drink
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    "you want to get rid of the quizanoline compounds"

    Where can i read about that please ?

    One could also put womens underclothes on and dance through the streets yodeling while swallowing the seeds with a drink of water .

    When i took them to activate DMT i just gobbed about 10 gramms of them 20 minutes before the DMT . I also had nothing against chewing them exept that i got loads of bits between my teath .
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    Google has no entrys for "quizanoline" .

    There is a list of the chemical contents of P.Harmala here :-

    http://sun.ars-grin.gov:8080/npgspub/xs ... ?taxon=706

    I dont see any reason for risking heartburn by doing lemon juice extraction either the stuff is all water soluable and your stomach juices are about PH 4 anyway .

    But i`d be very interested to hear about any toxic or in anyway nasty chemicals that it might contain if you can explain more or give me any references please ???
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    harmaline?

    All right tahnks endless I think I'll probably try your method next time.
    Though I just love crystals don't know why.. silly me
    1 more q for HeartCore: Are these reddish crysts pure harmaline?
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    "Are these reddish crysts pure harmaline?"

    No . And mine were rusty colour .
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    I have made potent harmala brew

    by adding just a tiny drop of orange juice in the water
    and then cooking carefully for 3 x 10 minutes.
    with a little rest on each cooking
    also blowing tobacco down into the brew while cooking
    helps to quicken and please the spirits of harmala
    like it is performed by shamans of the jungle.

    tobacco contains harmala alkaloids
    so that while inebriated on peganum
    cigarettes taste no good
    and i get dizzy spells
    so i just sit back and enjoy. leave cigarette
    and just breathe in the peace of SOma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfinn
    tobacco contains harmala alkaloids
    source?
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    P.Harmala doesnt give trips and its not soma . In some parts of the world its known as hoama .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOD
    "you want to get rid of the quizanoline compounds"

    Where can i read about that please ?

    One could also put womens underclothes on and dance through the streets yodeling while swallowing the seeds with a drink of water .

    When i took them to activate DMT i just gobbed about 10 gramms of them 20 minutes before the DMT . I also had nothing against chewing them exept that i got loads of bits between my teath .
    hey sorry, I wrote it wrong

    its quinazoline (in the case of syrian rue its vasicine and vasicinone)

    here┤s a link, from ott:

    http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06332ott.html

    to save you the trouble here┤s the specific quote:

    apart from containing high amounts of B-carboline alkaloids, Syrian rue seeds also contain significant levels of the uterotonic quinazoline alkaloids vasicine (peganine) and vasicinone, accounting for ethnomedicinal use of these seeds as an abortifacient.(5,17,22) Since these alkaloids are much less soluble in water than are the B-carbolines, once again making an aqueous infusion will effect a separation, leaving the bulk of the quinazoline alkaloids behind in the seed residue, amounting to lower toxicity, especially significant for women, particularly if they are pregnant.

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    Thanks .

    Bastiaan , Are you sure that you have P.Harmala ? I`ve just chewed a mouth full and i dont taste anything nasty . I dont taste much at all . It tastes a bit dry to me , something like raw broadbeans . The Chacruna part has , for me , a much stronger taste wich most people say tastes bad . I like it though .
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    I'm quite sure, used it succesfully in ayahuasca and got it from azarius..
    But tastes differ I suppose :S to me it tastes awfull.. kinda like puke but I boiled it for some time
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    OK i understand that , boiled it does taste a bit shity . Why dont you try eating the seeds whole . Either chewing them or just swallowing them . I liked taking about 10 grams and sometimes making a mixed brew and sometimes just swallowing them and both worked fine for me .
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    P.harmala does give trip

    not like mushrooms
    but if you know how to journey out of body
    then p.harmala will support and enhance the experience.

    I had a vision of God sitting in the sky
    once inebriated on the seed brew.
    it is very good.
    May the gods be with you my friend

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    Are you sure it was the P.Harmala ? What dose did you take ?
    If in doubt double the dose

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    God is sure on the right.

    P.harmala it was,along with a bong of good weed,for the occasion.
    So iguess the two plants have worked together somewhat in
    the celestial vision i recieved or experienced.
    But again,i find harmala to calm my nerves before Dmushtea.
    I often experience bodily quivering
    before taking shroooms
    but when i include peganum in my rites
    i become settled down and sure of my purpose
    in the ceremony.

    Again i make sure to extract the ground up seeds
    by slowly cooking them in a little water 3x10 minutes
    with a drop of orange juice.
    resting the brew inbetween the cooking
    and blowing tobacco smoke down into it
    several times.
    (voo-doo enhancement of the spirit plant)
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    What dose did you take ?
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    Why dont north africans and asians , who have used it for thousands of years , get any psychoactive effects from ? Why dont i get anything off it at all even when i eat 20 gramms of seeds as an extract ?

    I dont read web sites like that , my life , time and sanity are to valuable to me .
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    Re: Syrian rue ingestion

    Hello all. I apologize for bringing back an old thread..I cannot post new threads so I will just write this here..where it kind of belongs.

    How to have an amazing trip using p harmala alone:

    I still see some people saying p harmala does nothing on its own..and I would like to tell you that you are very wrong. Here is the right way to prepare it, hope you enjoy it.

    THE END RESULT OF THIS RECIPE IS 5 DOSES, NOT 1. So split 5 ways and enjoy with friends, or drink 1/5 and save the rest for later..whatever you do, DO NOT DRINK THE WHOLE THING.

    Its easy to prepare but takes time. What you will need is:

    1. Four leveled tablespoons of syrian rue seeds
    2. Four glasses of water
    3. 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar

    So add all these to a large pot, and let it simmer on a low flame for hours until most of the liquid evaporates..then, add 2 glasses of water and wait some more. When you are left with very little water (enough to fill half a cup,not more) split it 5 ways, in 5 small shot glasses, and I repeat..If you plan to do this alone drink only one per day and not more.

    When you drink it, close your nose and breathe from your mouth. It tastes so bad and this is the only effective way to counter the taste. Enjoy
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    Re: Syrian rue ingestion

    Im such a newb and had never heard of Syrian Rue before this thread... what is the experience like?

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    Re: Syrian rue ingestion

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfinn View Post
    I have made potent harmala brew

    by adding just a tiny drop of orange juice in the water
    and then cooking carefully for 3 x 10 minutes.
    with a little rest on each cooking
    also blowing tobacco down into the brew while cooking
    helps to quicken and please the spirits of harmala
    like it is performed by shamans of the jungle.

    tobacco contains harmala alkaloids
    so that while inebriated on peganum
    cigarettes taste no good
    and i get dizzy spells
    so i just sit back and enjoy. leave cigarette
    and just breathe in the peace of SOma.
    This is what I shall do to prepare my first Ayashasca experience (5 grams rue and 50g Chacruna), cheers.

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    is this like san pedro? and did you find a better way of preparing it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bastiaan View Post
    Whats your favourite method of preparing and ingesting this?
    It's so disgusting.. I found the taste way more horrible then that of the mimosa extract even though I could somehow keep it in much easier.
    Is there a good way of ingesting P. Harmala seeds that works well that isn't absolutely disgusting?
    Perhaps powder it and then put the powder in a capsule/capsules?
    Or will I just have to learn to live with this?
    is this anything like san pedro cactus? anything I should watch out for? first time

    how was it? can it compare to san pedro cactus at all?
    Last edited by Abej^a G.; 12th November 2016 at 12:56. Reason: triple posst

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