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    NEW OPIUM EXTRACTION METHOD????????????

    so i was wondering about opium extractions....and i thought about it .....
    if one could make an extract of thc through butane ex. honey oil..{by the way i love to do this!!}..
    than could it be possible to use the same method for dried poppy pods?
    im not sure if the opium alkoloids will be soluble in the solvent {butane}but i guess they are in water................
    but i cant just drink that nasty stuff id rather smoke it......

    does anyone have any idea that could help??
    ex. what alkoloids will be extracted with butane

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    just try and see how it works out?
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    ahhhhhh..kinda risky.........i dont want to waste all my pods.....?

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    Why to use all of them? Use 1/5 of them to see if it going to work. Opium is soluble in water with alkaline PH, but in this I do not know. Even do not know yours way with butane method :wink:

    And always you can get more pods on graveyards! In flowers- you know what I mean, flowers for the mortes.
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    make an alcohol extraction and then evaporate it and smoke it?
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    yes.........smoke it................i will try the method at hand with 4 pods....
    since butane boils at room temp it wont take long for it all to evaporate.
    i just hope i get out all the 'good' alkoloids ......




    "Even do not know yours way with butane method Wink"

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    sorry....... i know it would be alot easier if we all spoke bianary code.....

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    I know something bout morphine or as you say first opium extraction. Morphine and something methyl-morphine is barely soluble in chloroform and alcohol. Water is the best way. I know that and my country from my con-vice file. Ethers are not good for that. Try to make tea from pods and drink it. ALL BUT ALL will dissolve in water, and you will get yours opium(morphine) high.
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    yes and that would also take off the bad effects of smoking which involve lung/ mouth cancer, gastrities...ecc ecc.
    make good ol' tea that (dis)solves the problem...
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    oka well i made the tea and i used 3 pods and i got really fucked!!! i forgot that i had jumbo pods and i OD just a little.........ahhhhh it sucked!!! id rather just extract it through water and let it evaporate...then smoke or eat it

    let see would i have to smoke alot if i extracted it with h2o and let it evap.?

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    well if you made the tea and let it evaporate and then smoke it you should have shorter but stronger effects opposed to drinking it....the amount of morphine and papaverine and all the other interesting alkaloyds is the same as when making a tea, if not more concentrated if you are extracting properly.
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    well i took 4 pods and froze them overnight......then thawed them out {breaking up cells}.......then proceded to pulverize then into a coarse sand like powder.....then added 1 1/2 cups water and let simmer not boil for about 20 min.......strained through a fine filter and its now evaporating.........in the oven , with the door cracked open on 150............................



    will it taste as good as raw O??

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    not at all
    more like a salad gone bad :wink:
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    Shit man, do not listen my advices cause when I make tea I use something bout 40-60 hand size pods. Years are doing what they are supposed to do-Tolerance.
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    shit i would definatly die from 30 pods!!!!!! ..........but {still experimenting} i think the tea is fuckin NASTY!!! way worse than my homemade absinthe....so i just took 10 pods = 5 hits for me......boiled them in 2 cups water.......strained.........filterd.......than evaporated this down to 5 ml {yeh its hard!!} so that every little ml is 1 hit lasting for 4-5 hours...............and only a small amount to injest!!! yup i smoked it to but i like how the tea is longer lasting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    but anyone know where to get cheap pods!! im out and so is the supplyer!!!

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    want some seeds to grow your own? :wink:
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    well i have something like 1 million seeds......REALLY!!! i think they are red..{flower}...............but if you have a diff. color i will trade!

    i have been trying to grow some pop's for about 3 years now..

    first attempt they grew but they were so small it didnt amount to ne thing.
    next attempt the dogs dug them up!
    now i have some 30 seedlingd that have came up but we'll see if ne thing happens..........

    but yeh trade??

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    i have the peony type (double flower) if you are interested i got pink/red ones, black ones and white ones...lemme know
    i also got california poppies if interested...
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    If you want I can buy (tomorrow I will for tea) and send you seeds from Macedonian opium poppy! Shit man this is sooo addictive and highly toxic. I suppose that you know that poppy tea is shit loaded with toxins :wink: And do not waste good poppy for opium smoke cause you are forgot that opium smoke is made from live not dead and dried pods :wink: Extraction here is pointless
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    COOL.............yeh i know that the 'real o' is made from !carefully! slicing the pods ever so thin ..10-12 days after the pedals fall.....or the crown is up...............

    but fuck yeh!! if you guys want you can send me some seeds.........

    i finnally have a propper spot to grow them!

    but i can grow em'......and if you guys want ship you some dried pods from your seeds.................

    e-mail me if interested....

    p.m. for adress

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    BUT BE CAREFUL CAUSE GROWING POPPY IS HOW TO SAY: PRODUCTION, MANUFACTURING DRUGS FOR SALE, OBTAINING DRUGS FOR SALE, EVEN SELLING DRUGS AND THIS IS SHEDULE 1 DRUG/S
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    WHAT!!!! no no..........these are "ornaments" for a wreath............ :wink:

    as long as none are sliced its ok

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    No man, look at yours laws bout growing poppies. Here in Croatia you need even for personal growing licence!! And how much have you grow there will be inspection every month that will look if there is maybe indications for some illegal activity! Just look yours law with poppy growing and everything will be clear.
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