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    Have you Glitched? [altered sound experience.. try at home]

    Glitching.


    Have you ever tried this?

    You basically listen to the natural sounds around you through an effects processor.

    It's amazing.

    All you need is a microphone, ear phones, laptop, and a backpack. Run the mic through the laptop, filter it through some effects, and listen to it through the ear phones.

    It's portable. You can walk around like this. You can meditate like this. Parties. It's really synergistic.

    I use Ableton Live. I'm not sure what other software does this. A battery-powered effects pedal works too.

    You can customize the world to sound like anything you want. The supply of VST plugins out there is limitless.

    Favorite is Glitch (it's where the name comes from http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/

    Delay is awesome. And pitch manipulation. Harmonies. I haven't even tried Autotune. Or sending Beethoven through a vocoder. It's a new way to experience music. If your mic is sensitive enough, drumming on your body is really amazing.

    It's awesome to do with multiple people. Like, one mic broadcasting to several ear phones (splitter or FM transmitter or bluetooth? or wifi?). Get the delay looping and you'll have a collective musical experience.

    With a camera and video goggles you could do visual glitching.

    Combine it with data from an EEG and you can get yourself into incredible feedback loops. (should be able to get one soon) Imagine hooking up several people's EEGs together?

    This is like... the future of Psychedelia.

    You can try this right now. Let me know if you need any help setting it up.

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    Really? Did you come up with this all by yourself?

    This is dope. I'm setting it up as we speak, I play with speakers and mics a lot. I'm going to do this in a room with tons of a feedback I can control and loop.

    Thank you.

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    I'll stick to drugs thanks

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    Sounds like something I really need to try some day.

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    This is like... the future of Psychedelia.
    this is like what ken kesey and the pranksters did in the 60's..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimzen
    This is like... the future of Psychedelia.
    this is like what ken kesey and the pranksters did in the 60's..
    Bwhahaha, I laughed out loud XD

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    I used to do this a lot, especially when (stoned )friends were at my place. it's a lot of fun, makes you feel like you are standing in a church, or a cave, or just at some very freaky place (if you use the ping pong delay)
    definitely recommended

    we once put on the headphones to a friend who fell asleep due to a lot of weed and started the whole thing. his expression when he woke up because of the sounds was priceless.

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    Glitching out at best buy..

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortexelus
    All you need is a microphone, ear phones, laptop, and a backpack. Run the mic through the laptop, filter it through some effects, and listen to it through the ear phones.

    It's portable. You can walk around like this.
    Cool.. I've done the glitching in one place, but not up and walking around. I sometimes take long walks with headphones and a mic just recording sounds to use in whatever project I'm doing. After an hour or so the effect of hearing everything around you amplified is quite nice. Glitch is a pretty good free (err shareware) vst as well.. (haven't used it in a while though). Combining the two sounds like a good time..

    If your mic is sensitive enough, drumming on your body is really amazing.
    There's a guy out there who does that for performance, makes some pretty interesting rhythms (Daniel Mensch or something, not quite sure, there's a few artists out there by that name). I saw him last year on tour at an electronic music fest... was really into the sound already before I knew what he was doing, looking through the crowd and realizing what he was doing just added to the experience.
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    The story of stuff

    http://soundcloud.com/psyolopher
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    This thread actually made my day.. It makes the innate sound nerd in me very happy to see people into playing with sound and playing with their ears on this site
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    Quote Originally Posted by st.bot.32
    This thread actually made my day.. It makes the innate sound nerd in me very happy to see people into playing with sound and playing with their ears on this site
    Reading THAT made my day.

    I was thinking of building a website for this. Like, people posting their settings, sound samples, experiences, comments, that sort of thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPancake
    it's a lot of fun, makes you feel like you are standing in a church, or a cave, or just at some very freaky place (if you use the ping pong delay)
    definitely recommended
    Yes! Definitely synergism is the way to go.

    Ping pong delay is amazing. Especially when everything you've said for the last 30 seconds is being repeated back to you... it really sets off the mind bombs. LMFAO especially when you laugh. Not a bad short term memory enhancer either :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpink
    I'm going to do this in a room with tons of a feedback I can control and loop.
    I LOVE feedback. Drone. The sound takes on a consciousness of itself. The slightest movements and changes in vibration can manipulate the sound patterns.

    What are your setups like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimzen
    this is like what ken kesey and the pranksters did in the 60's..
    I'm up for it. Let's go across the country glitching people on.

    Or even across the internet. Post a link to this topic or something. Spread the word.

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    Here's some free VST hosts:

    http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm
    http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia ... Host.shtml
    http://www.tobybear.de/p_minihost.html

    I haven't tried them though.

    You know what would be cool? An evolving glitch experience. You know, the effects change over time. Maybe in reaction to the environment. Handheld remote? The best would be if it responded to your brainwaves via EEG.

    You could customize an experience for someone. It would be a musical performance of itself. Beyond music. Like DJing, but the next step.

    You could actually integrate music with a glitched environment. Even live music. That'd be pretty bizarre. People having a different experiences of your music based on whatever they're doing/feeling.

    Or like, a glitch party mixed with dance music or drone. People interacting with each other is the key part. LMAO like sampling and looping real events. Like, quotes and laughter and whatever.

    There's literally no end to it.

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    i'm liking this
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    Laptops are fat.

    This needs to be more portable. Like, hack some Mp3 player or USB stick? Rockbox? iPhone perhaps? Any ideas on how to build one?

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    Sounds very cool, really want to try it. However, it seems I'm a bit of a noob at the program (and pretty high), how do you get it to work?
    Any tutorials somewhere maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henkfloyd
    Sounds very cool, really want to try it. However, it seems I'm a bit of a noob at the program (and pretty high), how do you get it to work?
    Any tutorials somewhere maybe?
    I should write some.

    I believe all you need to do is hit the red record button at the bottom of one of the audio tracks. And then drag some effect from the left-side menu onto the track, and change the settings in the bottom panel.

    If you have windows, and you're having latency issues with the audio, you might need to install ASIO4ALL. http://www.asio4all.com/
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    And if you installed the ASIO drivers..
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    I LOVE feedback. Drone. The sound takes on a consciousness of itself. The slightest movements and changes in vibration can manipulate the sound patterns.
    +1

    I often do feedback loops through my reel to reel, outboard effects and laptop..

    Laptops are fat.
    You can get small, lightweight laptops:

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    Of those who tried it, can you report back on the experience?

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    Anyone who experimented with it.. can you report back on the experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by st.bot.32
    I often do feedback loops through my reel to reel, outboard effects and laptop..
    Nice. Sometimes I set up a handful of feedbacking speakers all around the house and walk around blindfold. You can hear it throughout the neighborhood LMAO

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    Re: Have you Glitched? [altered sound experience.. try at ho

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortexelus
    All you need is a microphone, ear phones, laptop, and a backpack. Run the mic through the laptop, filter it through some effects, and listen to it through the ear phones.

    It's portable. You can walk around like this. You can meditate like this. Parties. It's really synergistic.
    Haven't tried it out yet, but certainly will! I just need to figure out how to set my computer to not go into sleeping mode when I close it. Otherwise it won't really fit in my packpack.
    "The present moment is the only door into existence. The past and future are not doors, they are walls."

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    control panel > energy options
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortexelus
    Laptops are fat.

    This needs to be more portable. Like, hack some Mp3 player or USB stick? Rockbox? iPhone perhaps? Any ideas on how to build one?
    Hmm, the iPhone has a built-in microphone. If only I knew how to program for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pez
    Quote Originally Posted by Cortexelus
    Laptops are fat.

    This needs to be more portable. Like, hack some Mp3 player or USB stick? Rockbox? iPhone perhaps? Any ideas on how to build one?
    Hmm, the iPhone has a built-in microphone. If only I knew how to program for it...
    The iPhone! It's got visual capabilities too. If I had one I'd make the software for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ????????
    control panel > energy options
    Thanks! Now I can use my laptop as an mp3-player!
    I still have to install the program. Will try it out tonight.
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    That about Ableton is quite interesting.
    But I guess you need to record stuff first before being able to experience the sounds with the effects.
    Is it possible in that same way to manipulate all the sounds live?

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    I opened VST, but couldn't make sense of it. Ableton doesn't seem to have any seeds.
    "The present moment is the only door into existence. The past and future are not doors, they are walls."

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    Re: Have you Glitched? [altered sound experience.. try at ho

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortexelus
    Glitching.

    Have you ever tried this?

    You basically listen to the natural sounds around you through an effects processor.

    It's amazing.

    All you need is a microphone, ear phones, laptop, and a backpack. Run the mic through the laptop, filter it through some effects, and listen to it through the ear phones.

    It's portable. You can walk around like this. You can meditate like this. Parties. It's really synergistic.

    I use Ableton Live. I'm not sure what other software does this. A battery-powered effects pedal works too.

    You can customize the world to sound like anything you want. The supply of VST plugins out there is limitless.

    Favorite is Glitch (it's where the name comes from http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/
    ....

    I like your theories here. I have played around with this kind of stuff alot, but I never considered doing it live. You could REALLY take that kind of idea to the next level with a digital stereo recording device and use that for your mic.
    Or better yet you could play with binaural mic setups and have an "out of head experience" you don't even want to know how real it sounds, your headphones literally are transparent.

    And you talk combining this manipulation with video? Both combined with maybe a visual headset (we don't really have the technology yet for good video headsets but they do exist) and you got yourself an alternate digital reality. That touches very highly on Augmented reality which is becoming increasingly prevalent in Japanese culture as well as American. Like a biofeedback internet, but simulated.

    I like this. Make some ambient recordings with this and post online, better yet sync with footage of the same thing and alter that too. I'd love to see that experiment.

    I might also mention the Japanese animated series "Serial Experiments Lain" is about this somewhat too, only it's a real Biofeedback interweb, it's an amazing concept.
    - "Close the world, open the exit.

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    Re: Have you Glitched? [altered sound experience.. try at ho

    Quote Originally Posted by RushNerd
    Or better yet you could play with binaural mic setups and have an "out of head experience" you don't even want to know how real it sounds, your headphones literally are transparent.

    And you talk combining this manipulation with video? Both combined with maybe a visual headset (we don't really have the technology yet for good video headsets but they do exist) and you got yourself an alternate digital reality. That touches very highly on Augmented reality which is becoming increasingly prevalent in Japanese culture as well as American. Like a biofeedback internet, but simulated.

    I like this. Make some ambient recordings with this and post online, better yet sync with footage of the same thing and alter that too. I'd love to see that experiment.

    I might also mention the Japanese animated series "Serial Experiments Lain" is about this somewhat too, only it's a real Biofeedback interweb, it's an amazing concept.
    Out of head experience LMAO whoa! I just ordered an FM transmitter, (no model head, but I have a stereo mic), and I definitely need to try something like that.

    Yeah, combination with video is the next step. I'm waiting for a decent video headset.

    I threw a Glitch party this weekend with a bunch of my friends. It was a peak experience. I'll post what came of that later..

    Here's a video from a jam a few weeks ago:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CLYyqDMpRQ

    More videos to come..

    That's awesome, I definitely am going to have to check out that anime.

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    Re: Have you Glitched? [altered sound experience.. try at ho

    Quote Originally Posted by RushNerd
    "Serial Experiments Lain"
    i watched that, it was pretty good
    ~you are something the whole universe is doing in the same way a wave is something that the whole ocean is doing~

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