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    Lucid Dreaming, is it possible?

    Ok, too me, lucid dreaming just.. It seems very intellectual.. I don't even know the word.. And I just wanted too know how easy it is too do.. And what exactly you need to do to reach it.. I try and I try.. But I mean, I always remember my dreams.. But I have a VERY hard time understanding that I am in one while I'm in one.. Someone please tell me.. Someone who knows and is experienced.. Thanks!
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
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    i think you'd really like the website erowid. its all the psychonautic stuff you want to know about i bet.

    http://www.erowid.org/spirit/dreaming/dreaming.shtml

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    You can also do a search on youtube, and if you are really interested i have quite some ebooks about lucid dreaming. But then you need to contact me, and somehow i can''t write pm''s....
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    somehow i can''t write pm''s....
    Just 11 more posts and you can write PM's too. :wink:

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    Here is what you need to do:

    Every 30 minutes. I mean EVERY 30 minutes, pinch yourself to make sure you are awake. Look at your hands whenever possible - this will make you realize if you are awake or dreaming. (sounds weird right now, I know).

    Before you go to bed;
    Meditate, eat fatty foods, especially turkey and things that contain tryptophan.
    I, personally, have gotten very close to going into sleep consciously, my dreams 'start' yet I am still awake... but shortly they stop and I 'drop' back into my body, so to speak.
    What helps is imagine a dream, go with the flow, start yourself off in a story, and let your mind wander... if you are consciously contructing the story, you're not close to dream world, but once things start to 'take over' much like psychodelics do, you will feel yourself becoming the dream. Personally I believe this is DMT and other tryptamines in the brain being released.

    You can also listen to very soft electronica, psychodelic, or soothing music before bed, lowest volume to hear, and try to imagine yourself in the music. This will allow a greater chance to dream, however to become lucid, you need a mechanism to realize you are dreaming - which is the pinching yourself or the looking at your hands. If you program yourself to do this often enough, you will automatically do it in the dream, and it will become apparent that you are dreaming. Now... You are lucid.
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    Another way would be experimenting with hemi-synchronisation. It produces tones from which the frequencies are the same of that when you are in the dream state. If you are interested i'll have also LOTS of hemi-synchronisation audio files...

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    somehow i can''t write pm''s....
    Just 11 more posts and you can write PM's too. :wink:
    Thanks for mention it

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    I am very interested in the frequencies man.. Uhm.. Just put them up on rapidshare or something and I'll check them out! Thanks dude! And thanks for all the help. I liked the instructions.. Will be sure to do it tonight.
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Hey Nanosage, the Hemi-sync files where a bit to large to upload so that's not going to work, but i did found a torrent for these hemi-sync files. There are much more of these files, but with these you will have enough files for a while. If you then still are interested PM me, so i can give you a invite to a private torrent website for the rest of the files. Here''s the torrent

    http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3743828 ... %5BMP3%5D_

    I also have uploaded some ebooks, sound files and a video file about lucid dreaming. I never have read it myself, but maybe it would be useful

    http://uploading.com/files/1f5bdb89/lucid.zip/

    I hope it helps you and others who are interested...

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    Hermes.. You are like the coolest dude ever.. I SWEAR! But yea dude I will PM you for the rest! I tried it last night.. It was unsuccessful.. I listened too some smooth electronica and was really high.. I think that was the problem.. I used my vaporizer that I just baught last week, and I kept falling.. But the problem was I didn't know if I was falling into my dream.. Or if I was just really high.. You know all those abstract thoughts that come out with weed.. It was weird..
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Re: Lucid Dreaming, is it possible?

    I have achieved short moments of lucid dreaming when I took a high dose of l-tryptophane before going to sleep.
    l-tryptophan is an essential amino acid, you can buy it as a dietary supplement, it is useful as a mild sleeping aid and a mild anti-depressant (also works well to fight off the bad feeling the day after a drinking binge etc).

    The lucid dreaming just happened to me a few times after taking 2g or 2.5g of l-tryptophan in the evening. However I never managed to stay into the dream very long. When I realized that I'm dreaming I was able to start flying a little, but then it all started to fade away and I woke up eventually. Was pretty cool though anyways.
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    Trypto. Do you have to be 18 too buy those? And thanks man I'll really look into them!
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Re: Lucid Dreaming, is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanosage
    Trypto. Do you have to be 18 too buy those? And thanks man I'll really look into them!
    No, you can just order it online:
    http://azarius.net/healthshop/supplemen ... an/?lang=7

    However I never managed to stay into the dream very long. When I realized that I'm dreaming I was able to start flying a little, but then it all started to fade away and I woke up eventually. Was pretty cool though anyways.
    I also have trouble with staying lucid when the moment comes that i get conscious about my dream. As soon as i start thinking i almost directly wakeup, but i keep practising anyway, what else should i do at night

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    Lol your right man.. Thats what I think keeps me awake.. Like I have been trying it every night. And just me thinking about dreaming when I'm having those random out-there thoughts makes me re focus my eyes, and I can't do it for another like 5 minutes... But I'm with you.. There's nothing better to do while trying to sleep..
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Re: Lucid Dreaming, is it possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by IJesusChrist
    Every 30 minutes. I mean EVERY 30 minutes, pinch yourself to make sure you are awake. Look at your hands whenever possible - this will make you realize if you are awake or dreaming. (sounds weird right now, I know).
    Yes, that's what I did in 2005, and I had a lucid dream experience within a week or so. It was short-lived though, just a couple of seconds being aware that "Hey, I'm dreaming this. Woohooo!!"

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    haha, I know that. the excitement oftentimes woke me up, sometimes I was able to do some stuff as well though, but I never got off the ground.

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    i've had my share of lucid dreams, but the only method i've used was WRITING down EVERYTHING i could remember of a dream. After some time my dreams became more elaborate and i experienced moments where i realized i was dreaming.
    In the beginning it was very hard not to wake up because of the excitement, sort of ecstatic feeling i was experiencing that went in combination of me levitating in the air. I've had a lot of dreams where i could levitate/fly but i had to really concentrate on it in those dreams, like i was doing it with my willpower. But this was much more spontaneous and free, more like i was pulled upwards out of my body or something..

    After the first initial flukes i became more and more conscious in and of my dreams and they became more like quests or trips into my subconscious.. Some dark stuff and trippy shit i encountered there.
    I think i'll pick up the habit of keeping a dream diary again. It helped me a lot back then to understand some of the processes i was going through.

    It's been a while since i've given this kind of stuff some serious attention
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    I have tried it for years, but despite vivid memories and some control in a dream it remains purely astral. Personally I could never get attached to a physical body without slightly waking up. It's just like Ketamine or DMT, a non-physical reality. That's why I love San Pedro in a big dose, with closed eyes it's a translucent dream with a lot of sedation and still the connection with every outer nerve of the body. To dream with open eyes and a physical presence scopolamine seems to be the compound, deliriants are just like that, especially in combination with a stimulant (atropine/ephedrine) to keep attention up. Pity that they are dangerous and too much flashing. And do not forget Amanita!

    Somehow in the morning when having turn arounds prior to opening my eyes gave me the most ''lucid'' dreams (not infrequently erotic), especially when snoozing again after the first alarm clock.

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    That's why I love San Pedro in a big dose, with closed eyes it's a translucent dream with a lot of sedation and still the connection with every outer nerve of the body.
    I also experienced this with 2cb, although the 2cb decided what sort visions i had, i still could control a lot. But what do you mean with amanita?
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    How do you know that 30 minute has passed? re you actually supposed to open your eyes? Because that always messes with me for some reason.. And sorry if none of this makes sense.. I shouldn't have baught that vaporizer.. I literatly get too high
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    I shouldn't have baught that vaporizer.. I literatly get too high
    LOL, dreaming and smoking weed together do not always work. A lot of people say that ones they have quited weed, a couple of days later they get pretty overwhelming dreams. I also experience this when i am quited for the first two weeks. So yeah, it would be an idea to vaporise less
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    Yea lol the thing is and I dunno if I explained this before but.. When your blown and your laying there trying to fall asleep, you honestly can't tell if your dreaming or if its just the weed.. Plus I always have that weird falling feeling if I lay down.. But they say weed isn't addictive.. But honestly not gonna lie, I think I am addicted to it.. I mean cigarettes I smoked like 200 before I got addicted.. Well truely addicted.. But I quit those But weed dude.. I have smoked almost every day for the past year in a half, and if I quit I don't feel good.. But I have gone 3 weeks before.. I just give up on quitting weed.. So now the longest I go is 2 weeks if I'm broke..
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    And dude.. Like Dreaming and weed definitely don't mix.. It's fun to just be high and be adventurous you know? I mean yea sometimes its cool just to sit down.. But most of the time, I like to go places.. Me and a few of my friends on cinco de mayo, we went to see alice in wonderland on shrooms, and then went to a restaurant near our houses called vista grande. And we sat down and ate.. And we walked and walked.. And it was probably the best day of my life.. I of course offered buying some acid for us.. But for some reason there is this gay kid who I hate and no body else does lol.. But he has been telling everyone I know that acid you can overdose on really easy.. I don't really care just cuz I hate the kid.. But just the stupidity.. Jesus.. Lol well anyways no drama man.. But yea that was a truly exiting day.. And I haven't been sticking to my point.. Lol.. Being high is like dreaming while awake. And if you mix that with actual dreaming its fucked up.. I guess thats why they don't advise lacing weed with DMT. But maybe thats just remembrance issues..
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Because no one would probably tell you this i''ll do it, beware of the dangers you are confronting right now. You still 15 years old, and maybe it sounds stupid but it is one of the most important ages of your live. If i where you i would do my very best at school and quit with weed, because weed makes you lazy and worthless, especially if you get depended on it. So yeah, weed is somehow little addicted. Not addicted like cigarettes or other drugs like coke etc. In the end its easy to quite, but you probably need some will power.

    You see entheogens as a way to fuck yourself up. But in fact it are tools that are very useful to learn but you have to use them in the right way! Abuse is probably one of the worst things you can do to yourself. Again i warn you, i read that you have done DXM, which is really Dangerous! Now think about your live, wait till you are a little older and start to see the real purpose of entheogens.

    I don''t want to sound like you parents probably do, but your on a high down to madness, so grow up take life more serious and do what you supposed to do. You not the first one who losses his mind before he became even a adult! I say this just because i have seen kids like you before, and its such a pity to see them failing growing up.

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    Lol dude I think that I am fine. I make good grades and everything.. I have my priorities.. Like I have been saying. But weed.. It's just I don't know. Weed dude.. I honestly just think that itslike part of me.. I don't know.. I don't let any of that shit getin my school stuff.. And like I said I makegoodgrades, I don't brag about it.. I showrespect,andYou know don't brag about it at all.. So dude like I reallydon't want to quit. I just.. I don't know.. I don't know what to do with my life, but I still think whatever I do I know that it will be what "I wantto do" You know? I would say that my ego was more like the "Time to pretend" By"MGMT" Lyric.. But now.. I don't know its still kinda like that.. Exept for the whole moving to paris and shooting up or something lol
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermesTrismegistus
    That's why I love San Pedro in a big dose, with closed eyes it's a translucent dream with a lot of sedation and still the connection with every outer nerve of the body.
    I also experienced this with 2cb, although the 2cb decided what sort visions i had, i still could control a lot. But what do you mean with amanita?
    Cinnamon bought at he funfair, that's what 2CB feels like to me. Even though it corresponds with a classical psychedelic experience, it doesn't feel natural and comes with muscle contraction without getting energetic. But nothing near a dream, actually quite sober if you want to be as it is easy to alter a bee trip into your favour. It's very funny though, making the patterns yourself wih closed eyes, try that with LSD or mushrooms and you'll surrender.

    I meant Amanita Muscaria, which has similar effects as deliriants that block the neurotransmitter acetylcholine with a real seeming delirium/dream as a result. But A. Muscaria in it's dried form (kills its toxicity) actually accelerates the activity of acetylcholine (it's an anti-dote for tropane intoxination and vice versa) and it's not a killer unlike substances that block acetylcholine.

    Amanita Muscaria is known for lucid dream-like effects, I haven't used it ... yet.

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    Also Hermes, again, thank you for the concern. Like I have said before. It makes me happy that you actually care although I have only had small talk with you..... But honestly.. I don't know. I think that I have my life well on its course you know. I mean seriously though thank you for caring like I'm not kidding.. And just you know.. Don't treat me like a kid ya know.. I mean I'm sure you hear this all the time from kids my age.. Almost every adult does.. But seriously.. I think I'm a little grown up at least, and now that I know what all this is like.. Its to late you know. Yes I am very lucky I didn't fail growing up like you said, but I didn't and thats all I can say. I am not into the whole opiate and meth thing or even speed. I mainly stick too hallucinogens and weed. I will admit the DxM And the speeding that I have done was Terribly retarded to say the least.. But thank you man.. You really care about youths don't you?
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Don't treat me like a kid ya know.. I mean I'm sure you hear this all the time from kids my age.. Almost every adult does.. But seriously..
    actually, yes i do And you know what, ones i thought just like you. Maybe i do recognise a part of my old self in you. I really care about the youth, especially kids at your age. I know because i have experienced it myself, that the next following 7 to 8 years are going to be a big rollercoaster, and everything will turn out to be a BIT different then you would have expected it to be. Your at a age that you start with developing a personality which will be very important for the years after you really have become an adult. It's not that i want to say you whats wrong and what's not, but what i really want to say is becareful. For example the DXM story, i know that you wanted to try something and because you couldnt find the real stuff and where impatiently you decided to take DXM. You have to know that you still have a whole lifetime to go, so being impatiently can get you end up with some real trouble. But if you do have some more patience, you will finally find the real stuff. Just take the time, because if you really think about it you still have probaly 50 to 70 years time to take psychedelics

    Anyway, i realise that you do have your own responsibility's and i won't say anything about it anymore, as you have to find out your own lessons. Just like did! But i think that the most of us here would agree, that maybe a little more patience and being more conscious of psychedelics your playing with, would be a wise thing to do! Oh and one fun thing, now your thinking hmmm another adults. But when you become older and wiser, you probably are going to say the same things as i do. Even if you now think you will not, i promise you that time will come! Goodluck mate, your right, i really do care about the youth and every living being on this planet.

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    Maybe if i will find the time for it, i going to try some peyote. All the reports i read about it, do make it really worth, to give it chance.

    Cinnamon bought at he funfair, that's what 2CB feels like to me.
    I can't find better words to describe 2cb

    Amanita Muscaria is known for lucid dream-like effects, I haven't used it ... yet.
    From what i have read the amanita seems not to work for anyone. Would there be a special way for preparing it?
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    Haha Hermes.. I know I will be like that.. I pretty much stopped arguing with adults if I knew their side of the story and if I knew that I would do it too when I was an adult.. I know where your coming from.. I pretty much figured out the whole point of view thing a few years ago.. Now I really don't fight with anyone without reasoning. Or if I'm pissed off (Usually for a reason) But sometimes I get a little out of hand. And the thing that makes me more mad about the whole mad thing is that when I get mad at nothing.. I see the naive inside of me.. And I hate it.. I still feel like a child sometimes.. But mostly, I think that I am mature about most things.. Except for people.. Some people just rub me the wrong way.. Lol I'm sure you have those people too.. And I know.. Can someone explain their experience on peyote, and how long it lasts and everything.. I read about this a very very long time ago, and am really pursuing it. But its hard too get psychedelics where I am except for mushrooms every once in awhile.. But still I love them. But I know peyote is in tea yes? And how long does it last? Its dosages for first time users.. Al the good stuff Please.. Lol Thanks.
    Mirrors are a very interesting thing,
    They always remind you that you are a living being

    Haha that rhyme is so gay.. I made it when I was blown, sorry.. But who cares.. It is cute I guess.. So it stays!!

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    Re: Lucid Dreaming, is it possible?

    nano, concerning lucid dreaming (and all around quality of sleep):

    i recommend that you eat healthy for an entire week, dont smoke weed (except for maybe once a day if you "cant quit". but NOT at any time in the evening, it will cloud your dream, and fuck your dream recall) drink alot of water (your supposed to drink a gallon a day as a healthy human being) and over the course of that time, read and learn as much as you possibly can about lucid dreaming. i think with a "ritual" sort of timespan like that leading up to you attempting lucidity is key. it MUST be on your mind constantly, just randomely popping into your head as a sincere desire (not like, oh shit i forgot to think about lucid dreaming today, that wont happen to you if you truely care about it), or else you will never have a quality lucid dream, on purpose. at the end of this week, you should feel very energetic, healthy, and prepared. if you're having trouble falling asleep once you are in this rhythm, it will be because you haven't burned enough energy throughout that day, so you will need some sort of excercise to counteract all the energy you will have, and THIS, this only, will be the best, most natural, most cost-efficient as well as all around healthy way to do it, and if you prepare properly, not taking ANY shortcuts, then you will find yourself having lucid dreams very often, and should not need to take any supplements, or special foods to induce these dreams. i train for mixed martial arts and when im really solid into my routine, i find that they occur very often, without too much "effort" if you will.

    point is, you have to align as many variables as you can as far as your health goes before you can even consider having healthy sleep, which from personal experience is THE ONLY CONSISTENT, RELIABLE WAY to even have the opportunity to have a lucid dream. you cant cheat or else it WIll manifest itself in terms of the quality of your sleep, and the quality of your lucid dream, if you do manage to have one. remember, these rules are not strict laws that MUST be followed OR ELSE, but if you sincerely desire to do it the right way, then following them fairly closely should not be hard for you. good luck, cant wait to hear from you
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