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    This insane world...

    I find more and more a sense of being in a very increasingly insane world. let me tell you though what I mean by 'world'. I do not mean the Earth, and the wonderful sacred natural world, but rather the toxic fucked up world of business, and profit, and exploitation of all beings and the earth.

    it is that world from which we see, pick and gather, and eat, the magical vegetation which inspires us in even deeper relationship with this home of ours

    But now most of us have TVs and all kinds of gadgets which are mindcontrolling us. Like a satanic screem that is saying 'look at ME ME ME, listen to MEE ignore the natural, it is dead and boring. Try this app and be cool.'

    I What are thoughts about this world? Do you feel the same? Or....?
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    This insane world...

    Is the world going more and more insane?
    When you switch on the news it sure looks like the world is getting increasingly mad.

    You can also switch off the news and just ignore it all.
    Instead of watching news go walking in nature. Instead of reading news, read a novel.

    My own feeling is the following.
    There are so many things that we can do nothing about. There is so many insane stuff going on in the world. You can focus your energy on it or not.

    There are for example people who watch conspiranoid video, s all day.
    Watching alex jones (or any other conspiranoid personality) will make you think the world is getting increasingly insane. I think focusing to much on news, insanity and conspiranoid theories make people depressed, angry, confused and mentaly and physicaly ill.
    I think moderation is a good thing when taking in news.

    Maybe the world is getting increasingly insane. Or maybe it is just as insane as before.
    What i am thinking about for the lasts six years is how to keep sane in a insane world.

    Sanity is the healthyness of the mind. Being sane is being healthy.
    Being healthy is being in balance.
    Sanity is living in harmony with nature, with your fellow humans and with the tao.
    Sanity is living mindfully. Being mindfull and aware observing the ideas and emotions that play around in the head. Being mindfull is the opposite of walking around half asleep.

    Everybody has there own choice as to what it is they like focus there energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zezt View Post
    I find more and more a sense of being in a very increasingly insane world. let me tell you though what I mean by 'world'. I do not mean the Earth, and the wonderful sacred natural world, but rather the toxic fucked up world of business, and profit, and exploitation of all beings and the earth.
    Just think about Van Gogh, in life considered only a madman, and now one of the greatest artists...
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    I totally understan what zezt is saying. This world is insane (in a way).
    And there are many many ways of looking at this insane world and the sometimes fucked up people in this worls. And there are many ways (philosopy, s religions, lifestyles ect) to deal with this world.

    This place is horrible!!!! (In a way)
    And how older you get the more fucked stuff you will see and experience in this world.

    I am not trying to say thay my way of dealing with things is the best.
    Everybody needs to find his or her own way of dealing with it otherwise you will go insane at some point eventually.
    I think humor is a way of dealing with things. Laughing about this insane world sometimes helps me keep my sanity. Without humor and without music i would go insane.

    I also think it, s not healthy to focus to much on the negative and the insane.
    It, s better to focus your energy on the positive and on the things you can change to make your own world more beautifull.
    Switch of cnn and build your own paradise world.
    Make art and express yourself.

    I do not know if i make sense?
    What do you think?

    (Edit)
    What i am NOT saying is that positive thinking will change or safe the world.
    What i am trying to bring across is that human beings need to find a way to be in this world without going insane.
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    Of course. I remember stupdily forcing myself to watch two beheading videos on youtube, and I really paid the price. I was left VERY traumatized.
    However, I dont mean that you must live in some pinky fluffy wuffy little bubble. I have explored the darkside. I have watched documentaries about evil killers etc to try and understand, because people that do terrible things are human like me and you. I have had thoughts that if carried out would be evil, and if we are all honest most of us do. EVEn 'little innocent kid' will. Wanna kill the kid who took the last piece of cake lol

    Good and evil are two words that we conceptually abstract from a dynamic process. They are like extremes of experience, but experience or reality is NOT independent things, but an interwoven process. There is no light without dark and vice verse, and no life without death and vice versa

    You are so right about sense of humour. I was always a right giggler as a kid, and when I met LSD and then especially magic mushrooms later in my life, I got it from them that laughing is deeply healing and sacred. it sees though phoniness, and that is why authoritarians usually hate it

    laughing insanely is sanity lol
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    It's just a giant propaganda control structure built to enslave you. Go back to sleep now.

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    About duality. It is my believe that there is no true duality.
    There is light and there is the lack of light (what we call darkness)
    There is life and the lack of life. (What we call death)
    There is sanity and the lack of sanity (what we call insanity)
    There is health and the lack of health.

    It is my believe that when we talk about dark and light we are actually talking about the same thing. Two sides of the same coin.
    Evil and cruelty i think comes from a lack of compassion wisedom and understanding.

    Now about living in a pinky fluffy wuffy little bubble. Some say ignorance is bliss.
    I do not think ignorance is bliss and i guess you feel the same.
    Often having knowledge is a heavy burden. But when you don, t have knowledge you will always stay stupid and learn nothing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shamanomenon View Post
    It's just a giant propaganda control structure built to enslave you. Go back to sleep now.
    This is just a stupid mindless oneliner that ads nothing to this discussion.

    Go back to sleep. Wake up.
    Whatever. Stop preaching and write something that actualy ads something to this discussion.

    I dislike preachy people who want to tell other, s what the world is like by using oneliners.
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    Yes, totally agree with you.

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    About duality. It is my believe that there is no true duality.
    There is light and there is the lack of light (what we call darkness)
    There is life and the lack of life. (What we call death)
    There is sanity and the lack of sanity (what we call insanity)
    There is health and the lack of health.



    It is my believe that when we talk about dark and light we are actually talking about the same thing. Two sides of the same coin.
    Evil and cruelty i think comes from a lack of compassion wisedom and understanding.
    If you say it that way, to me you are not respecting the reality of darkness. You are really saying |IMO, darkness doesn't exist in its own right as part of a dynamic with light, and so we will call it a 'lack of light'
    Same with death. WHY does 'life' have to be assumed the prexisting superior entity.

    I see that as duality, whereby one part of the dynamic is assumed preferential reality over the other part of the dynamic

    In reality, they are interwoven. Here right now is death. Movement is the death of the movement. I type, and each time I type a word is it is a 'death' of that action which is also the life simultaneously

    UNLESS this is what you mean
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    Can you please explain yourself more. I am not sure i understand what you are trying to say.

    The sun gives warmt and light (energy)
    When we move away from the sun it gets colder and darker.
    The darkness is the void. It is the void of space. When a sun shines in the void it spreads it, s light warmt and energy waves in the dark void of space.
    If there are no stars (suns) in the void and there is only the darkness of the void. What is this void? Nothingness? Or something close to it?

    What i am trying to say is the same thing you wrote before.
    Without life there is no death.
    And without death there is no life, because life feeds on itself (and on the energy of the sun).
    In nature nothing is wasted. What is death is food for the living.
    I do not believe in the paranormal or the supernatural. I do not believe in life after death (as in heaven spirits ghosts or reincarnation)

    I believe life is energy. Light is energy. Warmth is energy.

    When we talk about dryness what is it we talk about? Is dryness a force on it, s own? Is dryness a energy field?
    Can you buy dryness in a bottle or a box?
    I think dryness is the abscence or lack of moisture.

    Now you can shine a light in the dark. However there is no device that shines dark in light. If you want darkness you need to block or take away the source of light. That, s why i wrote darkness is a lack of light. If you say darkness exist as a force on it, s own please explain how.

    Now about the darkness, the void or even emptyness.
    I do not think there is such a thing as a total emptyness or a total void.
    However i do not claim to know the truth about the universe and the darkness of space and how it all began or how it will end.
    As we speak scientist are doing research to find out about darkness energy emptyness and stuff.
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    This are very intressting topics: light, space and time, emptyness. Black holes, darkmatter, gravity and such
    The only thing i can think of as a source of darkness may be a black hole.

    The nasa published a panoramic photo of the andromeada gallaxy. You can see so many stars.
    It makes me think about why the stupid humans keep on figthing. Why does the insanity keep going on.

    What do you think. What is it you believe?
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    finarfin, i believe zezt is simply saying to be careful with your verbage. if not, then thats what i would say. dont focus only on positive, as this is ignorance, and will do little to better a situation. all variables must be considered for what they are, which i believe should be done from an objective, or non-dual state. in this state decision making can be done to improve a crappy situation as opposed to just ignoring it. i dont believe thats what you are doing (hopefully) but others certainly are. we must be clear with language in esoteric territory, since it is so grounded in expressing a feeling as opposed to making an observation like "this car is red". not everyone can see the esoteric car, so in this sense, it pays to be a poet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ophiuchus View Post
    finarfin, i believe zezt is simply saying to be careful with your verbage. if not, then thats what i would say. dont focus only on positive, as this is ignorance, and will do little to better a situation. all variables must be considered for what they are, which i believe should be done from an objective, or non-dual state. in this state decision making can be done to improve a crappy situation as opposed to just ignoring it. i dont believe thats what you are doing (hopefully) but others certainly are. we must be clear with language in esoteric territory, since it is so grounded in expressing a feeling as opposed to making an observation like "this car is red". not everyone can see the esoteric car, so in this sense, it pays to be a poet.
    Sorry but i do not understand.
    Please try to explain it a little more. I feel a little lost and misunderstood in this discussion. English is not my native language.

    I never wrote one must only focus on the positive and ignore the negative
    If that, s what you get out of reading my post you completly misunderstood what i was trying to explain.
    To put it simple: i need a healthy*balance between positive and negative. And between action and rest. If i only focus on the negative it is very likley i will be unhappy get sick or go insane.

    I also wrote people need a way to deal with being in this world. There are many ways people deal with being in this world. My way is only just may way

    About the example of the red car. Making an observation that a car is red is one thing. But what has my intrest is why we see a car as red. How does light and color work. How do our eyes and brain (eyes are part of the brain)
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    i understand and agree with you, and its not your english, your english is great. but the thing about english is that it can easily be misunderstood unless one is very specific. this happens all the time with people whos only language is english...

    "I never wrote one must only focus on the positive and ignore the negative"

    youre right, you didnt write that, but you understand that what you wrote could be confused that way, and thats all that i meant to point out, and i assume zezt too, but i wont speak for him.
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    Thanks.
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    The world is becoming a world where the 1% is hogging more and more wealth and power at all costs. The top 80 richest people now owns as much as the bottom 50%. They make more laws barring science and banning everything from less harmful substances to nootropics to skating and tear down nature and parks and other stuff to build nothing but condominiums. The only free place left in this planet is this place called "the kingdom of north sudan" and that's only if anyone figures out technology to get fresh water from sea water and have a greenhouse or something since it's mostly desert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWIMchem5 View Post
    The world is becoming a world where the 1% is hogging more and more wealth and power at all costs. The top 80 richest people now owns as much as the bottom 50%. They make more laws barring science and banning everything from less harmful substances to nootropics to skating and tear down nature and parks and other stuff to build nothing but condominiums. The only free place left in this planet is this place called "the kingdom of north sudan" and that's only if anyone figures out technology to get fresh water from sea water and have a greenhouse or something since it's mostly desert.
    There is truth to this. But this is also a bit simplistic statement that has the smell of (political) populism to it.
    This whole 1% meme has become another oneliner that is over used.

    I sometimes got the feeling people tend to point the finger at the 1% and the elite and stop thinking.

    I am skeptical about ideas the point at one group of people as the source of all problems.

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    The group is not the problem. The problem is the paradigm leading to this situation.
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    Yes, the problem is IMAGINATION and this is something I am exploring. HOW the one percent, or 'the elite' or the powers that be or trhe government or the secret government or the illuminati or the globalists or the bankers--ALl these labels.

    Try stop paying taxes and you will find out who 'they' are. they are the ones who can destroy a country with bombs, and create starvation, and make sure some country gets their central bank

    so make no mis-take. There ARE A group, and/or groups on a same agenda who have the power, because they can take your money and then walk over you when your dying

    and they can pump propaganda into millions of 'living rooms' simultaneously on their same-old-look-the-same news channels about the same shit they want to create as your imagination

    THEY not only CAN do that they ARE doing that

    One of the ways they maintain the hierachical power ctricture is via divide and control. Create conflist and chaos to divide up communities into smaller communities in conflict with each other

    And they do this on different levels, including violence of course, via economic and actual war, and propaganda and occultist means. We have to wake up to all this

    We cannot play their game and blast them with our super weapons. THAT is what they love and it brings them profit. They love war, and sacrificing others who they see as less evolved as themselves

    what we can do is begin seeing through their mind control which conjures our imagination of reality. This is not some '2012' trip lol But the opening to a looking into things as we go and unlearning the spells they have and are putting on us. This is getting the spirit

    I will give an example of the occultist mind control

    On 9/11 notice that THE day also --which is repeated and repeated by the politics and their media as '9/11' also is the emergency number for the US. THAT correspondence was deliberate contrived as mind control--a targeting of the collective unconscious

    Now dig this. And I only found out this a little earlier today:

    They also make fun of people who show the January 7th coincidence, 1/7. 1/7 is actually the number you call for emergencies in France:

    "9/11 = 911 = American police's phone number...1/7 = 17 = French police's phone number. That's weird"
    So, what do you think? Coincidence or deliberate mind control contrived by the same control freak sick mindset that some are calling the 1% and who are behind 9/11. 7/7, and Paris? Has Holland had one yet?
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    Conspiracy talk is not something i want to get into at this moment.
    I know all is not what it seems.
    But i am not going to speculate about these terror attacks.
    If this is going to become about all kinds of random conspiracies count me out.

    Saying we need to wake up i think is a cliché and has become meaningless to me.

    I agree that people have been manipulated for a very long time.
    It all goes back to ancient times.
    There is a lot to say about it. To much for now if you ask me.

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    We also had terror attacks in the netherlands. And we a whole bunch of conspiracies and coverups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zezt View Post
    So, what do you think? Coincidence or deliberate mind control contrived by the same control freak sick mindset that some are calling the 1% and who are behind 9/11. 7/7, and Paris? Has Holland had one yet?

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    That is a good diagram that I will take closer look at later. Tis a shame some will drop out because of 'conspiracy theory'.
    No, I am sorry. When I start a thread titled 'this insane world...' you can bet that all of that is VERY much gonna be included. it is profoundly important we face this, and the taboo nature of it should betray how important it is to explore

    With this researcher, me---you have a very unique person. LOL. seriously. I cannot find ONE other researcher that talks about it online with my underlying views. The ones online--mostly males--are either christian or new age. I am more Goddess, earth-based pagan

    whys it matter? because BOTH christian and new age beliefs de-grade the physical body and nature is why. Hence that preexisting bias blinds them from really getting a grasp of what is happening THOUGH I have still learnt a lot from their research. There is one dude actually who is similar-ish, called Zacharia, and I will share his research later

    the very term 'conspiracy theory' is a CIA trick to shame people questioning the 'reality' being imposed on us!

    So please people do not let ANYONE intimidate your spirit of inquiry it is your spirit
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    We're all looking for an explanation for why this world is so fucked up. But the real questioning, in my opinion, is how ce create a sane one.

    We all need to take control of our live, look for an ethical view of living with others and be an example for everyone. If more and more people do that, the world could become saner. Yet it's important to denounce hierarchy, battle for power against others and violence around the world. But we mainly have to become more responsible and autonomous from this insane world that takes us by the balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge View Post
    We're all looking for an explanation for why this world is so fucked up. But the real questioning, in my opinion, is how ce create a sane one.

    We all need to take control of our live, look for an ethical view of living with others and be an example for everyone. If more and more people do that, the world could become saner. Yet it's important to denounce hierarchy, battle for power against others and violence around the world. But we mainly have to become more responsible and autonomous from this insane world that takes us by the balls.
    To become sane we have to explore and understand insanity
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    Yeah but there are many things you will never know for sure. Mostly you will be able to assume things, get angry with people about truth, but you won't know. As a psychonaut you obviously experienced and explored insanity. But the real thing is your everyday life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge View Post
    We're all looking for an explanation for why this world is so fucked up. But the real questioning, in my opinion, is how ce create a sane one.

    We all need to take control of our live, look for an ethical view of living with others and be an example for everyone. If more and more people do that, the world could become saner. Yet it's important to denounce hierarchy, battle for power against others and violence around the world. But we mainly have to become more responsible and autonomous from this insane world that takes us by the balls.
    I agree with this.
    We can point fingers to they the others the elite or the 1%.
    There are psychopaths that have power and are rich but there are also psychopaths in other levels of civilization. It, s not just the elite.

    I do not believe in blaming one group for all the insanity in the world.
    I agree we need take control over our own life.

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    Also it's not that theses people are psychopath, it's just that our paradigm, the philosophy that runs the human life currently, is wrong and permit people to build themselves at the expense of others. This is called liberalism and social Darwinism. But I agree that a part of the humans, because of what they are or what their life is, won't get shocked by this way of thinking. Maybe they are or became psychopath. But there is nothing we can do about it except for being an example to show that another way of living and perceiving others is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge View Post
    Also it's not that theses people are psychopath, it's just that our paradigm, the philosophy that runs the human life currently, is wrong and permit people to build themselves at the expense of others. This is called liberalism and social Darwinism. But I agree that a part of the humans, because of what they are or what their life is, won't get shocked by this way of thinking. Maybe they are or became psychopath. But there is nothing we can do about it except for being an example to show that another way of living and perceiving others is possible.
    Again i agree.
    I do not say these people are or aren, t psychopaths.
    What i was trying to say is that it, s not only the elite who are to blame for the state of the world.
    You do not need to be part of the elite to be an *sshole (or to grow at someone else his expense)

    And another part of the problem is that a lot of people (the so called masses)tend to be stupid and easily manipulated.
    So you can blame the elite for trying to manipulate the rest of the people. However you can also blame the stupid masses that let themselves be manipulated. Isn, t it so that the elite have power because the people let them take it.

    Maybe the elite look at the masses as dumb uneducated less then human creatures. And sometimes i think they may be right about that (in a way)
    Because there are enough people who never think deeply about the world and who only think about superficcial stuff such as footbal celeberties and fashion and stuff. People who are not willing to learn anything.

    So if you ask me the problem is not only the elite.
    Now i totally agree with sludge.
    When you take control over your own life and find your inner strenght and inner teacher you can live your life in a way that can be an example to others.
    Set an example and show people alternatives. Let your life be your massage.

    I hope this makes sense. It does to me.
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    It is wrong to kind of look at some abstract you call 'the other people'

    I can see in MY life where I have been stupid, and it makes me cringe. Example, a poor fly would find itself in a room with me, and I would try and kill it--like a maniac. A rolled up paper. of course the fly would go mad, flying about buzzing because I am threatening its life. Even worse we would have fly spray, and I would spray the fly until it was covered in the evil shit, and I was breathing in the poisonous fumes ALSO, and it was ugle and fukin vile.

    Now, it is another me. I have a glass and a card. I calmly place glass over fly, and card over opening and let it out the door, and feel marvelous when I release it into the wild blue yonder

    i learnt that an insect cannot fly out of a window because the air currents are too strong, etc.

    I look back and see how ignorant and crazed I was, insane, but that now I have changed. That is just one example. if I can others can. So never write people off. TPTB, which includes the whole advertizing industry, the propaganda machine of mass media and the more hidden occult spend MILLIONS AND MILLIONS finding ways to mind control us. It is not really a simple thing of--'oh the people choose to be manipulated'. No. Someone who waves off their children to war to be destroyed physically and/or psychologically and spiritually are VERY manipulated!
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    I get what you are saying. Never write people off. I totally agree.

    However do not underestimate the stupidity of (some) people.

    There is this idea of a pyramid structure with the (evil) elite on top manipulating the (innocent) people below. I think this idea is a bit of a cliche and is a bit simpleminded.
    People just try to manipulate and control eachother at all levels from high to low.
    Ofcourse there is a pyramid (class system kast system) structure or hyrarchie. And in some countries it, s worst then others. (The dutch king for example would never talk about royal subjects. Such talk would not be tolerated.)
    And even when there is revolution and they cut off the heads of the elite (combodia russia france cuba ect)
    A new elite will rise and sometimes things even get worse.

    My point is that humans are a lot like other primates when it comes to social behavior. What we need is a new psychology and a new paradigm, however i think it is going to take a long time before we get there (if we get there at all)

    About soldiers going to war.
    I know and talked to people who have been in the military and experienced war.
    You can look at being a soldieds as a job. Or you can think you, re fighting for something. Some soldiers i think see it as a job. Just like someone who works at a oil company thinks of what he is doing (destroying the earth) as a job.
    I agree that there is a lot of propaganda. Think for example about the connection hollywood has with the military industrial complex. There is a lot of manipulation and mindcontrol. And the more stupid you are the more likely you will believe the propaganda. Right?

    And it, s not only the propaganda in the movies. People believe all kind of weird shit. Why? Because they are dumbasses or because they have been brainwashed from birth. It, s sad i know.

    If people would take a minute to stop and think about what they are doing.
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    Re: This insane world...

    Quote Originally Posted by zezt View Post
    It is wrong to kind of look at some abstract you call 'the other people'
    The other people are all those that are not me. And the other people are all stupid?

    Yes there are stupid people.
    But there are also awesome humans.
    There are all sorts of humans.
    And everybody has his own good side and not so good side.(or evil side if that, s what you want to call it).

    I am not a holy person (far from it).
    Perfect is another thing that i am not.
    Just like you or anyone else i have my own mistakes.
    When i talk about people this includes myself. People means humans. Homo sapiens, it, s not abstract at all i think.

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