Thread: Colonization of mushroom

Hello dear Psychonauts,

I started in mushroom growing and I'm wondering about the evolution of my first crop, so I three days ago 12 inoculated jars with lids perforated metal and here are my questions:

- Of the approximately 3 caps appear small rust spots at the location of holes: is it dangerous for the continuation of colonization or should I change the covers?
- The settlement is about 27 degrees and the pots seem to dry: should moisten the environment during colonization pots?

Thank you all for your responses

A) don't worry about the rust. It won't hurt anything. The holes should be filled or covered though, to prevent contam from entering.
B) 27 is good. No, don't add moisture after you've started. Too dry is better than too wet. Just remember to increase moisture content next time.

Are you using a grain or BRF?

Thanks for your response,

I use vermiculit and rice floor.

Sincerely,

I'm wondering how people are getting the colonization in Tupperware.
I'm used to jars and p-cooker - but is there a less time intensive way????

Are people using the microwave???

it's possible, but i would not recommend it at all. one will simply leach chemicals from the plastic into ones mushrooms. always use glass when possible.

also, grains to not cook properly in the microwave.

Are you talking about spawning to tupperware?? That's the only way I ever seen em used.... Look into spawning to bulk. 1 tote will EASILY get you 3-4+ oz dried.

Hi St0ne Crazy thanks in advance for your insights on bulk substrate- I'm working through the material on the net about bulk substrate in Tupperware (and yes Ophiuchus I agree Microwaves are not so good).
What I've learned is that Wild Bird Seed (WBS) looks promising with a Coir + Vermiculite 50/50 casing layer. The Tupperware should be taped at the base with duct tape
this is to prevent light from causing "pins" (young mushies) from forming below the surface and later rotting.
I really like the idea of pasteurization leaving some level of protective microbes that inhibit the massive attack that sterile medium suffers. It is common knowledge in composting that different bacterial live at/through different heat environments.
So these bugs - while not taking over the bird seed will keep the bad bugs out whilst the crumbled PF cakes do their thing.

I gather too that the pasteurization takes about 70 - 90 minutes and is done by exposing the bird seed to temperatures below 170 degrees (meat thermo needed) but above 140.

Some folks spread the seed out to let some of the moisture out - then colonize and put the mixture into jars to "take." Do others put it directly in the tubes? Casing it only after it is colonized?

Also these tubes are put inside a second chamber with 2-3" of pearllite on the bottom where the water is put and humidity generates from.

Looking for bulk advise - thanks!

There's an easier way than that. What your talking about would be called a tray. And WBS is used as spawn, not really a bulk sub. It dries out way too easily. Depending on how much BRF you have, I would just look into a either a mini-mono or just a mono. They're a little more set and forget. Misting and fanning a little bit at the end helps, but you wouldn't have to worry about the humidity as much. And If you use coir/verm as your bulk substrate you wouldn't have to worry about a casing layer in the tray or tub. Coir performs just as good without one. And coir is pretty contaminate proof, which is great when your just starting. How much BRF do you have to use as spawn?

For Brown Rice Flour (BRF?) - the price online is better than the EarthFare price $8.99 lb
Usually I work with 3lb BRF and make 4 cases of 1 Pint Wide mouth jars. Using glove box technology and ionizer.
Good results though my strain may be weakening over time. I then birth fully taken jars into aquariums with a sonic humidifier that pumps mist in 6 times a day.

Pearlite covers the aquarium floor and the cakes sit on a wire riser to keep them out of the water/pearlite. Plastic covers the opening... Ah but these things are better seen than described here we go: The Mystic Core of Religion - YouTube:

If you have rusty water that touches your cake, in your place I would throw the box directly to the trash! Because if you catch contamination you can not see you realize that your water is brown already!

For me : Rust = Trash !!

I prefer to launch a new culture of risk of being sick or worse ...

Bye Byeee ( and sorry for my poor english )