Thread: atropa belladonna a.k.a deadly night sage

All i can say about this plant after reading about it on erowid is that ive come to belive it is the most potent hallicinogen on earth. what do you guys know?
i want to learn more about this teacher. truly interesting....

Atropa belladonna (deadly nightshade), which is native to Europe, contains the psychoactive alkaloids atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine.

That sounds like the same stuff you find in Datura, I am NOT now nor EVER getting close to that stuff. Read the tripreports, sound crazy.

For the record what erowid says about the effect:

Deliriant; Poison

ive got deadly nightshade in the garden(along with woody nightshade).
ive smoked it a couple of times, which i believe is the safest way to take it.
its interesting, but in no way enjoyable. and it wipes your memory so anything you learn during the experience you forget.
not recomended.
if you have to do it smoke it, small amounts
but not recomended

i heard a tea of the flowers is strongest but not safest... what are the effects of smoking?

iv talked to a few people who have tried this a few times.. they say it is the most retarded drug out there, your tripping balls, and dont even realize your tripping.. my buddy, well call him K, drank down a 1.14L of deadly nightshade tea (not realizing that was the dose for 5 people). when he finished it off his buddy yelled at him saying "YOU DIDNT JUST DRINK THAT WHOLE THING DID YOU?!?" sooo yeah, he spent the next 4 days completly phucked in the head, he said he was talking to his walls for about 12 hours, (which after the trip he went back to,(in his room) and when he was tripping he saw faces all over the wall.. which were knots in the wood.) he was told that he was playing in the park like a little child, not knowing what was happening. he says it was an experience, but not one he really remembers.. or enjoyed. (he fell from standing straight up, straight back, on his head) im suprized he didnt die... but yeah, i dont reccommend doing this at ALL. any drug that has a potential of being deadly is a complete waist. especially with all the other drugs that do wonderful an amazing things. things that are enjoyable, and things you remember.

that is because the atropine containing plants, or any alcaloids of the like, are on the dark spectrum of drugs. you can't call them retarded or dumb or stupid. they are just there minding their own businness, when a jakass comes up and wants to trip balls:
premise
datura, and the like, are NOT meant for tripping balls
1 datura and the like, developped a poison so that noone eats them
2 datura and the like have a vary strong spirit force that can turn you upside down. taking Datura is like riding giant waves and ending underwater, if you don't know how to approach it.
3 datura and the like, are wicked teachers, some see your intents right through you and might take you on THEIR fun ride in your brain.
However, if you know what you are doing, and looking for and you know the plant personally (you have grown it) it can help you answer your questions. BUT because it's so powerful it can change you forever, you can become insane or even die. and not because of the dieing risk, but because it loves to dwell on the dark side of your mind i call the datura family plants the dark drugs.

Edit

i've taken it
i know what i'm talking about
smoking destroys some of the alkaloids, however for a real contact with the spirit of the plant i recommend a brew, tho i don't recommend experiencing with her, unless you really are 100000% sure about what you are doing, and trust me, i realised afterwards that no one is.

If you do it please film it as a warning to other people and so we can have a good laugh.........

Car exhaust fumes are also psychoactive . Or what about drilling holes in ones head thats also supposed to give a good buzz......

i also heard that if you get bitten by a rattle snake on the wrist, you get an awesome trip before dieing :confused:
however i bet that if a rattlesnake bit GOD it would die before he could inject the venom

gone

I don't want to get nitpicky but as it generates hallucinations it's a hallucinogen. :wink:

no
it makes you delirious

Originally Posted by Meduzz

I don't want to get nitpicky but as it generates hallucinations it's a hallucinogen. :wink:

If you don't eat a few days, you start to hallucinate
if you don't sleep for a few days, you start to hallucinate.
if I hit you on the forhead really hard with this 100% colonized pf jar which is standing next to my keyboard, you would most likely start to hallucinate.

Get my point?

I get your point.

But i'll get some more nitpicky now

I know that it has nothing to do with hallucinogens but is actually a deliriant.

The word "entheogens" fit better imo.

But ok, case closed, this is getting waaay to nitpicky. Sorry guys

i agree in the difference between delierants and hallucinogens.


though the meaning of the words for this sort of drugs kind of overlap. i mean it is quite possible having hallucinations while being in delerium. for me delerium is "the last stand" of the body and the mind together against a "poison" or somethin like that, that """""""could""""""" end your life. that's why there is indeed a difference between the intake of drugs that can possibly send you into delerium and drugs that most possibly don't do that. also as many people pointed out ++ plants like DATURA will FUCK YOU ++, so be careful, as you are not the one who fucks the plant. the plant fucks you remember that.

so if you ever decide to take deleriants because of the amazing trip like DATURA or similar keep in mind that if you are brought to the edge of insanity by """"""""""""""""""""the spirit of the plant""""""""""""""" , you better let yourself be fucked gently by """""""""""""the plant""""""""""""....

i think deleriants that make you have hallucinations are actually very dangerous. i once heard about an incident where someone who took datura heard voices which would tell him to "cut his own dick off and cook it and then eat it" .................................. that's what he did. lol....


peace

that's sick!!

dont touch this shit i did and fun has nothing to do with it

belladona hates fun and fun hates it

Its a hallucinogen and a deleriant .

Originally Posted by Meduzz

I get your point.

But i'll get some more nitpicky now

I know that it has nothing to do with hallucinogens but is actually a deliriant.

The word "entheogens" fit better imo.

But ok, case closed, this is getting waaay to nitpicky. Sorry guys

Datura an entheogen?

You only get farther from the truth.... Read some stories about what exactly it is, that usually manifests in people when they use Datura and then look up the meaning of the word entheogen and notice, how that doesn't make any sense in relation to Datura

The only connection to entheogens is that it realy does bring some people nearer to god.......IT KILLS THEM..........

i wouldn't get near you if they payed me ok it's Blah blah

however
Datura (depends on which plant) species have different amounts of, and different, alkaloids
there are the ones that kill outright and the ones that indeed, used the right way can give you an entheogenic experience. i have to disagree on your vision guys. for once i hold firmly (stupidly maybe?) to my convintion. tho i have to agree that doing it is VERY dangerous and using delirants is hard to get an entheogenic experience especially if you are not strong enough to keep your wits at bay. i've done datura, i haven't died, i've had quite some teachings, and i can tell you, it can be quite entheogenic and spiritually awesome (as in it creates a state of awe after you realize what happened). it's not fun, or else they wouldn't use it to discipline bad behaving children.

PS i didn't even cut off my dick or my ears or tatooed momma on my left arm

You dont know what the definition of Entheogen is do you ???? Entheogen means something that awakens or shows you the god in you .

the thing is
I do know
however the solanaceae awaken a chaotic god within you and basically you are being possessed by it's spirit. thus making you delirious instead of hallucinated.

"You dont know what the definition of Entheogen is do you ???? Entheogen means something that awakens or shows you the god in you ."

The god in you not a personal fantasy chaotic god in you . If you read about the people who invented the word and what they meant it to mean maybe you will understand .

belladona is much milder than datura, a bit safer

if you do take it smoke it, its much easier to dose

i learned something realy interesting smoking belladona

it was to do with how extensive the sinus area is in my head
and what it felt like to have them totaly dry out

GOD i understand what you mean, however i disagree on the fantasy god you stated, i felt it was pretty real. again you can argue my mind made it real. but then again isn't it tha same with salvia?

hey lets agree we disagree

Originally Posted by HeartCore

Datura an entheogen?

nononono...

I know that it has nothing to do with hallucinogens but is actually a deliriant.

The word "entheogens" in stead of hallucinogen

Originally Posted by Dantediv86

the thing is
I do know
however the solanaceae awaken a chaotic god within you and basically you are being possessed by it's spirit. thus making you delirious instead of hallucinated.

I agree.

It seems to me also the thing with the chaotic god, with "entheogens" that grow their "poison" against attackers in the night. (plants which flower at night)

But i don't really know ... it's more like an impression.... Like opiates have generally a similarity, which would be to calm down the brain.

By calming down the brain, "the mind" is also influenced, as the brain is a carrier of the mind.

Therefore the brain can't be sure of the mind anymore ... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: hallucinations OR (in the case of Solanaceae plants) so :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: delerium

That's why "soft drugs" like weed can make you have intense trips and even hallucinations. Yes i have had hallucinations of smokin weed....

There might also be a difference in plants which grow "poison" in their fruits and plants which grow "poison" in their buds and plants which grow "poison" in their leafs.

peace

Look up the definition of entheogen , the original one . Entheogens have nothing to do with poison or "poisonous" plants . And dont split hairs about the definition of poison please .

Originally Posted by GOD

Look up the definition of entheogen , the original one . Entheogens have nothing to do with poison or "poisonous" plants . And dont split hairs about the definition of poison please .

sorry for splitting hairs about the definition of poison, but i THINK it is fact that for example DATURA for some trippers is an "entheogen" (original one) and for other trippers it is/was/will be/would be/could be "poison" (original one) .



peace