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    This sickness doesn't sound good to me.
    I never experienced that kind of sickness.
    Maybe it's the way you took them?

    . if you chew them spit them out, don't swallow.
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    I said it before don't swallow those seeds.
    If you want to chew them, spit them out afterwards.

    I myself make a water filtration out of the seeds and drink it
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    As I say when the effects start coming on 'Just calm down, just calm the fuck down. Hey, look-- a spinning tunnel. FLYYYYY!)'
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    If you bought the seeds from a store, they likely were treated.

    You can wash them, but I won't do it for more than 60 seconds.

    It's best to grow your own. Fresh seeds yield more potential than last year's. In other words. Buy the old stuff from the store. Plant it. Grow it, collect new seeds. Plant more, or process a few for a trip. (:
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    Preparing a HBW Trip

    My friend really wants to 'trip', but mushrooms and lsd are dry now in our area. I've personally taken acid once and 2-C-E once.

    He showed me morning glory seeds and I was interested. Looking around, I discovered that HBW seeds seem much better.

    I know that we should go for organic, non-treated seeds, but what is an ideal extraction with simple ingredients? I found a supplier online, 18$ for 50 seeds. Is that about right?

    My current plan is to remove the husks, grind them, and soak the powder for a specific time in water, but how long? And can we mix this concotion with flavoring, or will this prompt more nausea?

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    I've always gone with Bouncing Bear Botanicals and I highly recommend their product.
    About preparing it, since there appears to be some controversy over whether or not the seed husks even contain the nausea-inducing chemicals I always leave them on. I just break up the seeds with my mortar and pestle until they're kind of powder like and stick them in some boiled (then cooled) water. I let it sit in the dark for anywhere from a few hours to a few days. Then I filter it through either filter paper or simply a shirt and drink.
    It winds up tasting rather earthy which is fine at first, but as I've used more seeds the taste appears to induce some nausea. Still, not sure if you can mix it with anything, though you shouldn't need to. I tried mixing it with orange juice once and all that accomplished was almost ruining orange juice for me.
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    I've used more seeds the taste appears to induce some nausea.
    lsa often causes nausea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticwarrior
    I've used more seeds the taste appears to induce some nausea.
    lsa often causes nausea.
    I know, however the taste itself seems to cause some of it. Then again, I could just be associating the taste with the nausea.
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    Re: Preparing a HBW Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Sveninarxao
    My friend really wants to 'trip', but mushrooms and lsd are dry now in our area. I've personally taken acid once and 2-C-E once.

    He showed me morning glory seeds and I was interested. Looking around, I discovered that HBW seeds seem much better.

    I know that we should go for organic, non-treated seeds, but what is an ideal extraction with simple ingredients? I found a supplier online, 18$ for 50 seeds. Is that about right?

    My current plan is to remove the husks, grind them, and soak the powder for a specific time in water, but how long? And can we mix this concotion with flavoring, or will this prompt more nausea?
    What seeds? HBWR, or MG?

    For MG seeds, you'll need about 300-400 for a decent trip.
    For MBWR, I'd say about 3 to 4 seeds.

    Do a cold water extraction. http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals/ ... ction.html There's no need to remove the husks.

    Keep in mind to NOT do the prep in light. Do it in a dark area, away from light as LSA is sensitive to light.

    Basically you grind up the seeds, place em in a tea bag, soak them in cold water for 30 mins, add a bit of lemon juice if you like. And drink.

    There's other extraction methods, so do some research. Personally, the cold water is simple and effective.

    Don't drink the ground stuff. It'll make you feel like shit. Think of it like making tea. You don't eat the tea leaves when you're done making tea. You throw the bag out and drink the tea-water. Same for LSA extractions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticwarrior
    I've used more seeds the taste appears to induce some nausea.
    lsa often causes nausea.
    I always thought it wasn't the LSA itself but the seed cases that caused the nausea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight
    I always thought it wasn't the LSA itself but the seed cases that caused the nausea?
    Yes, that's correct.

    About an hour ago I read another method of preparing Morning Glory seeds:
    Sprout by soaking in water for 3-4 days (change water often), after which the white mushy part is removed from the shell and eaten. This is probably the best method for avoiding side effects, although it makes the effects a little bit less intensive.
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    I've heard that LSA itself causes nausea and it's just a theory that some of it's from the seed cases. Also, I found I good prep I've yet to use at http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals/ ... ction.html . Also, if it's HBWR I agree that starting around 3-4 seeds is a good idea. I seem to be naturally tolerant, but I hear for some people that many can blow them away.
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    I've tried it with and without the husks. Personally, I get less nausea without the husks, but it's not much of a difference. It's better to just take the time to covert it to LSD. More powerful of a trip and less vomiting to deal with.
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    iv found any good quality HBWR seed WILL no matter what, make you sick to your stomach. i dont bother scraping/burning/doing anything to the seed other then bust them up in a buster, or just chew them. if you have some herb, that will help a little bit with your stomach, but wont make you feel 100%. i stopped taking HBWR seeds, not because of feeling sick, but because i had a SUPER intense trip just off 5 seeds (new batch, i used to take 7-12 at a time) but yeah, the only time now ill ever take HBWR is mixing it with cactus and i will only eat 3-4 of them. it gives you that extra body buzz.. (a million times better then E)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamapricotica
    I'm going to plant the remaining seeds and I'm pretty excited about it
    Just watch out for the dammed snails. They love these things. (:

    Happy growing!
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    HBW ingestion

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    dont burn or scrape em. just take the amount you want to take, put them in a coffee grinder (buster) and then put the powder into some meltable chocolate. eat a slice or two of bread, drink a little bit of water/milk just to get something else in your system (dont eat a lot, just a little). and your off!
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    Smash grind or powder the seed and make a water filtration
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    +1 magickmumu

    Yes, water extraction is really the best way to go. Be careful though. Use cold distilled water (not tap) after grinding. And keep it away from light/heat!

    Also be careful of how long you let the stuff soak into the water. (use teabag to put stuff into, then let soak for 20 mins, I believe.) Research the time though. I forget exactly how long you're supposed to let it soak and whatnot. It's been a while since I've done a water extraction for LSA.
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    and when the cold water extraction fails, let me know how my method goes.
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    I usually let the soak very long more then 5 hours. I have used distilled and tap water, both with success I don't use teabags but coffee filters. I don't know if my methode is any good, because I have developed my own and just went with it. A Friend h tried to soak the seeds in a smaller amount of time. . His tea turned out green and it didn't do anything for him. My tea always looks brown, not green.

    Another friend I powders and then chews his seeds. His spits it out. His method also seemed to work for him.
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    The cold water extraction works, but can still get you sick, especially if you are taking a larger dose. (Common mistake: using too much water)

    Some people have a lot of success with sublingual (under the tongue) doses. Take your HBWR seeds, powder/grind them, and mix in shot glass with a little bit of water and lemon juice. Let it sit for 5 min, then drink the mixture, trying to get everything under your tongue. Hold it there for 15 to 20 minutes, then spit it out. Redose as needed.

    I had some success with this method, but I also drank the water-extracted HBWR, so I can't say how effective the sublingual dose was (although I felt a good comeup before I drank the tea).

    Have fun.

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    u can make an exctraction, very easy. Search information about it...
    (U don't have to exctract totaly the pure LSA, just put off the bad things using some kind of zippo gas)
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    Re: HBW ingestion

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    Re: HBW ingestion

    http://www.psychonaut.com/post-31661.html?f=43

    I posted a while ago about LSA (HBRW Seed extract) preps and got some good advice.

    Simple Tek:

    Take your seeds, deshell as best you can. Place in coffee grinder, grind to powder.
    Soak Powder in Naptha (Petroleum Ether, aka Zippo Lighter fluid; Get the Yellow bottle it evaps faster and leaves no residue.
    Let powder soak w/ regular shakings, I use either a Mortar Pestle w/ saran wrap on top or a 1/2 Pint Mason Jar w/ the lid on to agitated the solution. You can use a generous amount of fluid. After it has all evaporated, use a mortar and pestle to grind the powder some more to ensure you get all the Naptha out.

    Next add Ethanol (Everclear if you can get it) to the ground remaining plant material. Don't add to much, you have to reduce the excess later. Cover the container and shake occasionally (more often than w/ the Naptha step), you can filter the liquid and resoak the plant material as many times as you like. Once your satisfied with your Ethanol extraction, I usually put my liquid in either a thermal cup or a porcelain cup and put it about 8" - 12" away from a small space heater (mine has temp control, I set it for 90F for about 90 min, checking on it constantly and rotating the cup and adjusting the distance as needed until enough ethanol has evaporated. Then prepare for injection. I usually reduce down to about 5 mL and add them drop wise on sugar cubes or something sweet an porous. I've heard Lemon Juice works to mask the taste as well.

    Using this method I've only experienced a moderate body load once or twice (on 11+ seed extracts).


    Hope this helps and enjoy!

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    Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, i feel nothing!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by phantasos
    hi guys, i've just bort some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and i've eaten 11 (i ate 8 then 3 with out the shell 1hour and half latter) of then now, all i did was chew for a few secondsand then just swollow. i was told that i should feel it after 15min to about 1hour and a half?
    its now 2 hours latter and i feel nothing? i've never had any experience with these seeds before, so am i just being impatient?

    i bort these from alternative minds.co.uk? if that meens anything to you guys?
    thanx in advance XD

    do not eat the shells they contain cyanide glycosides and can make you very sick or worse, also make sure that you use a coffe grinder to powder them after burning and scraping the shells off, you only want the white inner meat no brown fuzzy parts trust me, one key thing most people dont realize about lsa is that its 90% closed eye visuals and best done in the dark laying in bed, expect a vast amount of vasoconstriction as well so you'll get very cold . when i took them i ate 12-14 of them powdered and even without the shells expect some nausea
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    Re:

    Quote Originally Posted by Synith
    The LSA in the seeds may be too weak for your body to have a reaction to them (everyone's different.)

    Try extracting the LSA from the seeds using the methods here: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=9747

    Also, be aware of dosage.LSA in HBWR seeds are more potent than MG's seeds.

    Once you extract LSA from the seeds, you can convert it to LSD.

    I'd get a feel for the LSA first though. Full-blown LSD is-- yea.

    Good luck!

    EDIT:

    Make sure they're HBWR seeds. You could have bought a different strain.

    i think you meant to say convert it to LSH, LSD you would need to have acess to a entire chemist lab and alot of schooling behind you. at any given time all of the lsd that is in circulation is only ever usually created by a very small handfull of masters degree chemists and in bulk. one ounce of pure lsd is enough to dose over 300 people
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