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    Steam Distilling of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds & Other

    Anybody ever try this? Just curious if it would be a more potent than doing the regular LSA extraction or even work at all.
    Ever try it on other psychoactive plants?

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    As far as I understand it, steam distillation is mainly for the extraction of aromatic compounds... I don't think LSA would be extracted if you steam distilled the seeds... I'm no expert, though.

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    Hawaiian baby woodrose trip report

    hi, this is my first post on here, though ive been reading the forum for a little bit. this is the first time ive tried to properly right down what happened to me in a drug experience, but i felt that this was one of the best or most valuable ive had and it just seemed to flow really easily out of me today, a great way to make the experience flow back...hence why theres so much i guess, here it goes anyway:

    Me and my friend James tripped in our flat at the university of Warwick last night.

    We smoked 2 js, and were already feeling far gone; deep inside etc. had been on a few days of abstinence which represented quite a long time for the way Iíve been smoking recently. really showed what a difference this makes though, and aside from feeling a little anxious, my musical appreciation shot right up, I jammed to a couple of songs and we chilled and chatted shit and laughed at stupid things for a few hours, deciding we should give it a little while before we ate the seeds seeing how baked we already were. (the stereo sound on my speakers was great, hearing all the different parts clearly in great quality from each part of the speakers, e.g. little parts like a tambourine in the chorus of a Biffy Clyro song....the night seemed to be very rhythmically themed, likely due to a conversation I had earlier about music as a force of energy and its origins in connection with ritual.)
    It was the end of term, so I was obviously feeling good, vibes of coming to the end of another certain stage of my life etc, I had really been looking forward to an experience like this, even just getting stoned, and asked for some level of ego-loss in the trip - I was really happy to feel like I was granted this. Anyway we decided to eat the seeds gradually at just after 10pm, chewing them one at a time with some orange juice and a few apples to take the taste away. although I was planning on taking a dose of about 10 or 11 quickly, as Iíve done a couple of times before, this turned out to be a much better way of gauging a good dose, and we didnít feel like anymore than 7 or 8 was really needed at all.
    The nausea came on pretty fast, say 20 minutes, and almost surprisingly in that we didnít feel like more substances were needed, another j calmed it down massively, and made doing things a lot easier. At this point it hadnít fully kicked in, while at the same I always seem to feel things getting to work inside me, something in the background slowly creeping up inside you. We listened to more music attentively, I think it was the Fleet Foxes album at this point though I could be wrong, and we went into our separate rooms for a while (I lay out on my bed presuming James was doing the same). Soon after, my friend josh (the drummer in my band) came into my room to smoke some of the bud Iíd picked up for him earlier. Now itís difficult to define but in the past Iíve had experiences where to be around people who weren't tripping is exactly what not to do, almost grounding you back into reality and making you feel awkward and disturbed. This time seemed to be different though, and I opened up, explaining the strange early stages I was in as he hit some bowls at my desk.
    I picked up my acoustic, James came back into my room, and things now began to get interesting. We began to come up, talking ecstatically about anything and everything and after a short while we were all laughing hysterically like maniacs, yet perfectly chilled at the same time. I took a step back and became introspectively appreciative of my friends, and sunk into playing guitar lying against the wall. Energy seemed to be flowing through me, I let go and played towards songs and, to the disbelief of everyone (including myself!)A beautiful melodic solo came out, twanging the strings loudly and confidently with my fingers.
    Iím blank for a little while here, and the next thing I remember was being alone again lying on my bed as the trip began to fully kick in. I was listening to the Smashing Pumpkins, my number 1 band and musical influence with whose psychedelic yet powerful sound I feel a great resonance. To say I was listening would be an understatement in fact, I was now experiencing the music fully, watching my curtains create patterns of tiny dots, horizontal lines and occasionally fading to total blackness before repeating the sequence (the closest way I can think of describing it would be like the patterns on peacock feathers, or loads of swirling eyes looking down at me). As the sound of the song 'Snail' surrounded me I began to realise the nature of everything as LOVE, and just thinking of the word itself began to intensify the visuals to an even greater extent. Next was the song 'Window Paine', and although this seems a little silly to me (especially now), and as though I was creating my own synronicities from within me, everything seemed to become linked and connected perfectly because I was simply staring at my window at the time.
    Similarly, every time I checked the time of a song I saw the number 11, something which happens to me constantly with clocks etc, however Iím always aware or unsure whether itís my imposing of thoughts on an individual level which causes this to happen. This in itself still interests me a great deal though, and reminds me of a previous, very contemplative trip on the Indian strain of woodrose where I somehow managed to arrive at the conclusion that it is possible to imagine anything into existence as thought and idea.
    Next I went over into James room to see how he was doing, it was now about 1AM and we were both experiencing the most beautiful feeling that everything single thing was exactly the same as everything else. We lay about the room in pitch darkness, discussing the nature of this congruence in detail yet I was frustrated by the barriers of language, which now seemed primitive and inexpressive of true emotion etc. The room was full of throbbing energy, in the form of bubbles and particles all around us, and we talked about what I understood as moving to 'the next level' - while we could see the structures of everything, we were still experiencing life through being a biological entity, and I wonder how possible it is to truly experience absolute purity because of this (in this lifetime of course). Possibly in some way related to this (kind of embarrassing but oh well!), I couldnít help but feel a massive sexual urge despite not concerning myself with any sexual thoughts, and it were also my physical body regressed to its innate drive -reminding me almost exactly of the scene in Donnie Darko where Donnie is deep in hypnosis and starts to play with himself un-consciously. Meanwhile everything in the room was melting into itself (the furniture, the walls, the bed etc.) I stared out the window, watching the branches of a tree become nerve endings extending into the air and its roots spiralling through the ground connecting it profoundly to the earth. I watched James melt into the background of the curtains and it was then that something really strange happened: his head bowed down and elongated into a raptor like beak and I saw him in the form of a lizard or reptile sitting across from me. This brings me back to my questioning of how much hallucinations are a manifestation of whets already in my mind, as I had read up on some ideas about reptilian beings on one of my favourite websites a few days before hand: http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html It has to be said Iím extremely cautious about these kind of theories, particularly the conspiracy focused ideas which seem to be looking to blame things for evil and greed (I feel it difficult to equate this especially because I know my friend is an amazing person). In the same way I was far from scared, and found it impossible to experience any fear or bad vibes even if I tried to create them out of curiosity.

    Any fighting of the trip or involvement in reality (even something as simple as walking) caused us to feel pretty sick however, but I managed to get back into my room at about 2:30. Perfectly synchronised, josh walked through my door as I was about to smoke another j to help with the next wave of nausea, and we smoked together. Again, even though he wasnít in the quite in the same place as me, I felt a huge connection with him which I think could stem from the fact that we make music together. The sickness was gone again and the theme of rhythm was back: we were listening to Shpongle and I could feel the tribal beats pulsating through me in perfect detail, at times causing me to close my eyes and loose myself drumming on the desk. josh went again, and I sat on my bed listening to their song 'Divine Moments Of Truth'. Throughout the night Iíd been experiencing a lot of closed eye visuals, but it was at this point that I really surrendered to them fully, becoming absorbed by what seemed like never ending patterns. The first I experienced was like an organic web of white/grey cells sometime ago, but now they were intense kaleidoscopes of deep green and red, with occasionally warped bubbles of yellow or neon pink strings. The most amazing thing about them was the depth though, it was like I would get closer and closer to the shapes but they would go on infinitely, travelling deeper and deeper into themselves and never reaching their destination, changing constantly. Though I had no idea at the time I was listening to Aphex Twins selected ambient works album which seemed to enhance these a lot, and I lay in bed in a blissful yet intense subway of colour - through which Iím unsure how I ever managed to finally drift off to sleep!
    I awoke this afternoon with a slight headache but felt fine after a few cups of tea and some breakfast, and felt no other bad affects apart from general tiredness and the feeling of being drained somewhat. Though Iím surprised by how much Iíve been able write about the trip, thereís still so much more detail and feeling Iím unable to express in words and in a sense am never going to be able too. Still, I hope an outline of the physical events will in some way help me to understand these experiences more, and for that reason I intend to keep more trip reports in the future.

    So far ive only experimented with LSA and MDMA in terms of harder substances, and ive found LSA to very intense for me at least. im really interested in trying some mushrooms at some point...its just that finding them seems to be a lot of effort..

    anyhow i somehow feel like i expose a lot of myself in the this...and i hope maybe someone finds something interesting or relevant in it
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    *moved to Other Psychoactive Plants.

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    ah cool, didn't see this one
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    hi hermit, welcome to the forum

    a lot of the time I have a bowl or take or psychedelics I end up making music, its definitely my favorite combo. with the right people it can be such an amazing experience.. something about jamming and improvising on psychedelics really lets you go deep into the trip, intensifies the psychedelic edge (at least for me).. i often come away with a different perspective or a new idea.
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    Hi Hermit,

    Very nice experience, good to hear you were having a good time :wink: Thanks for writing it down
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    Quote Originally Posted by st.bot.32
    hi hermit, welcome to the forum

    a lot of the time I have a bowl or take or psychedelics I end up making music, its definitely my favorite combo. with the right people it can be such an amazing experience.. something about jamming and improvising on psychedelics really lets you go deep into the trip, intensifies the psychedelic edge (at least for me).. i often come away with a different perspective or a new idea.
    definatly man, it seems to be really natural to do something creative...sometimes i draw as well but im not very good..

    even on MD ive had some amazing guitar sessions with my mate in manchester, seems to work really well in that your totally un-inhibited, but still able to function really well physically unlike sometimes when youre maybe a little too stoned or whatever...you also never seem to grow tired of it that way heh

    normally i come up with ideas for songs etc. when im high and then try to refined them or 'practice' technically when im more sober, but what really amazed me while tripping was the fact that literally the more you seem to let go and not think at all about what your doing, the better you seem to play..
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    Rather the force than the farts .
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    Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, i feel nothing!!!

    hi guys, i've just bort some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and i've eaten 11 (i ate 8 then 3 with out the shell 1hour and half latter) of then now, all i did was chew for a few secondsand then just swollow. i was told that i should feel it after 15min to about 1hour and a half?
    its now 2 hours latter and i feel nothing? i've never had any experience with these seeds before, so am i just being impatient?

    i bort these from alternative minds.co.uk? if that meens anything to you guys?
    thanx in advance XD
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    did you eat anything before? The dose is really high. Wait a little, they should kick in...Do you feel any stomach pains?
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    umm... my stomack does feel a little odd and i was kinda ill earlier but thats about it, all that i've eaten today was a banana and that was after an hour from my first does.
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    how are you doing now? sometimes it takes a while, did u chew em good? where there big chunks of seed when u swallowed?
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    now, im fine, still feel a little ill but still nothing, i dont think there were very many chunks, i gave my sis and her freind pretty much the same dose (in the same way) and they still dont feel feel anytghing either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantasos
    now, im fine, still feel a little ill but still nothing, i dont think there were very many chunks, i gave my sis and her freind pretty much the same dose (in the same way) and they still dont feel feel anytghing either?
    these seeds take quite long to kick in..so i guess you should have a little patience

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    you feel the stomach, that sounds good. It will probably get worse - lie down then. I think you are coming up. I would min. wait 3 hours. Relax.
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    well its about 2 and a half/3 hours since u took the seeds? sometimes they take up to 5 hours to really start working. if the sickness gets worse just lie down and relax don't fight the sickness that makes it worse and can really ruin your journey
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    ok kool thanx XD
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    enjoy and don't forget to tell us how it went :wink:
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    its now been 4 and a quarter hours, if i dont feel anything by the next hour im gonna go snort some yopo seeds XD. tomorow (if nothing happends) do u guys think it "wise" to eat all my remaining seeds in one go (20 seeds). and of course i shall give u all the details of my experience XD
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    all i did was chew for a few secondsand then just swollow.
    From my experience, i can tell you that it's very important to eat them the same way like when u eat mushrooms, i.e. chew very long on them, don't just swallow them.
    I tripped on 60 morning glory seeds by chewing on them for almost a minute and then u can swallow them (taste was nasty, but the effects were much bigger then when i'd just swallow them)
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    I reckon it would be a lot easier to take in if you grind the seeds down and use it to make a tea out of it.
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    ya, i think i'll the tea idea thanx XD. i didnt snort the yopo seeds i smoked them insteed and i only got a big head ache from it so i think now im just gonna wait untill tomorw to take more seeds, if u like i could tell u how my dream goes
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    wait a few days to lose any build up tolerance from today and make some tea of it the next time, although i did have some ok effects from chewing the seeds. when making tea ingest al the bits with the tea don't toss them away.
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    yeah ok, chewing more is an idea but feeling NOTHING sounds pretty weird. Strange, strange.
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    they were probably the ghana strain or some other strain and not the true hawaiians. I had the same problem one, and ended up ingesting 18 seeds with minimal effect.

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    ya i think ur right, i've now eaten somthing like 20 seeds and i feel really ill :S (it never ocurd to me that eating to many mite make me ill) so im gonna try not to make that mistake again. thanx guys XD
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    The last time i did HBWR nothing happend.
    But I know it works because other times i did started tripping.

    I am surprised you swallowed the seeds. .
    Why not spit them out
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