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CaduceusMercurius · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:16 Post subject: Enslaved by K

"The K-hole has been described as an endless dimension to explore, and that's exactly what it is. Space, time and language either have no meaning or become ridiculously distorted. It can seem as if you are travelling through time or seeing into the future, as if you are living multiple lives or not living at all. And you feel something coming, something huge with you at the centre, because there is a massive messiah complex in there as well."

From: The Guardian, Enslaved by K

phalaris · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:58 Post subject:

Space-is-the-Place · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 13:23 Post subject:

Heavy stuff, I'm sure it's very addicting when you're constantly wanting to know how "the story" ends...

Brugmansia · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 16:57 Post subject:

Well, this article makes truly sense but should be placed in the right context, only a very small amount of K users experience this utter form of use.

Rather than mentioning the risks of addiction it'd be much better to spread info about the approach to Ket.

When starting with K, one should be aware that he's always submisse in this universe, and always will be. Ket is your safe host, with lodging, safety, serenity and peace. Ket takes responsibility for all your care, well-being and help. But Ket never discloses it's own true identity. Before the end and during the K-hole, Ket may make sense, but after, it's neutral.

Simply accept that you never can give it a placed place in your consciousness because you ain't getting to see everything. And neither receiving the finishing touch that should lead to a full understanding with the entire circle of enlightment after.

But it DOES have heavenly moments that may enlight many aspects of life you've to deal with, you may get fully rewarded for some things in life. Just without any full understanding or definition, but instictively.

It just doesn't happen in the K universe itself. So no one should search there after the open end. Wink

Despite all the warmth, Ket is distanted from yourself, and always will be. Unlike shrooms/LSD/mesca/aya who are harmonisated and 'in you'. While Ket isn't anything/anyone/anywhere.

The pictures of Caduceus say a lot, they're are feared in life, but not so dramatically in the K-hole. Wink

Forkbender · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 19:49 Post subject:

Brugmansia · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 23:58 Post subject:

When and where did they swore, Fork? Uitjebol? 'Cause in 1994 some things weren't known when that book was written.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=2731

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=20082

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=6312

Search for John Lilly and see how it ended up. It can alter your whole concept of existance. Search on drugs boards and see what K fanatics are.

IM might be less addictive than snorting, but certainly NOT non-addictive.

The story still applies to who who shoot. More K-holes a day isn't an exception for some dissociative freaks.

Space-is-the-Place · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:57 Post subject:

Rymmen · Psychonaut Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 241

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=2731

Perfect description of what a disassociation trip can be. Is it real? Who knows... but this is what keeps me using DXM, though I tend to keep it to once every two to four weeks.

All you people put disassociatives down, but in my use, they can bring a wider and greater range of experience than regular psychedelics.

Indeed, I did at some point almost fall for an addiction. It is indeed very easy, cheap, and it doesn't get boring. But that does not mean the drug is bad, it just means that people should be better educated on the matter, as with all drugs.

user_1919 · Psychonaut Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 586

Great article until the part where he got so addicted to it he was sniffing like 5 grams a day. Ketamine is forsure on my 'to do' list eventually, but I am going to wait till I'm a lot older, so the same thing doesn't happen to me as it did to that guy in the article. The effects seem very interesting.

PEACE & LOVE

mountain-girl · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:23 Post subject:

i found k to be an amazing experience, i was in the mountains and i became a unniverse unto the unisverse, a black hole of everything and nothing and i have no earthly idea how to describe it except to close my eyes and let that be your interpretation. i didnt find it to be addicting, even tho i think thats just how i did it and who i am, idk man, id suggest dancing with ketamine if your in the right space and do it for spiritual exploration, recreational k use is crazy, or idk that seems like it could really mess with you

Forkbender · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:37 Post subject:

HeartCore · Psychonaut Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1977

Forkbender · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:15 Post subject:

After hearing some stories by people who have used it IM, I'm very interested in it to try it once. I'm not afraid of addiction, not that I claim to be stronger than it, but I don't see myself chasing after people who can supply me with Ketamine, or moving to India and buying it in the shops. That's just not me. Rolling Eyes

HeartCore · Psychonaut Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1977

Forkbender · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:38 Post subject:

^ I know you can never be 100% sure about something like this. But I think in the end my curiosity will win from my hesitance.

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