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    strange negative effects on mda?

    been taking it a while now, weekend kinda thing.

    its always been a good experience, euphoric, visuals in high doses,
    as the white crystal, it feels heavier,more of a sat on your arse to buzz
    as the brown crystal its more energetic and a little less of a whoooosh when coming up.
    maybe takes an hour to get there from dropping it ala bomb
    rub on your gums/under the tongue (if you can hack the taste) you dont need to take as much, and it comes on quicker.

    id usually go .5 2 hour later .5 2hours later .5 ( dont try that u firsttimers i calculated by my bodyweight, and tolerance im a big guy)

    this time i do not know why, i dropped .4-.5 in a bomb ... started coming up, soon as i was hitting the level, i felt fucking shit. i mean emotionally fucked up. like the worst thing in my life gone wrong, if i wasnt experienced in drug use i could have well been in trouble. 5 hours of hell lol. that was a proper depressive trip this time, words cant describe it.

    usually i feel like im touching god kinda thing, part of the extra dimension in touch with whatever the fuck our minds fly off too when high.

    its kind of left me slightly confused about my view of the drug, i mean its an antidepressant right?
    i felt great before i took it, no worries.

    i can only liken it too experiences ive had in the past when ive over indulged for a period of time a substance which has a physical/mental addiction risk, stopped it for a few week, tried it again felt the same... so left well alone thereafter.

    mda has no physical addiction risk though?

    could 2-4 times a week cause a chemical imbalance in the brain through residual buildup in my system?

    forever the psychonaut.. im searching for the answers its out there.. somewhere lol

    yes its definately mda and nothing else.

    the only other thing i can possibly think about, and i just cant see why it would make this happen, is ive suddenly stopped smoking skunk, from @10g a day to 0.

    anyone got any input?

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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    No drug should be used as a "weekend kinda thing"

    smarten up or pay the price.
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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    should i put it on my cornflakes every morning then?
    coupla heaped spoonfuls
    the sunshine breakfast
    or talktofrank.com

    maybe i should have elaborated weekend kinda thing = social occasions usually weekends.. or sometimes self experimentation.

    when out i dont drink alcohol u see, its bad for you :wink: (especially for me, i have clinical depression not caused from drugs) alcohol is a depressant.

    interestingly mda use subdues this effectively for 3-5 days after a dose.

    i paid the price from the wonders of modern medicine prescribed to me in the past by doctors, the side effects was horrendous. half the shit is now banned for that reason.

    why was mda banned as an antidepressant? oh yeah people found out it made them feel good... :ANAL:

    but anyway back to my original thoughts.. anyone?

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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    the symptoms were an example of the St.Leary truism;


    "set and setting "
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    Since you said you have depression not caused by drugs, this is part of your 'set' , your mindest, or psychological situation.

    Set and setting are the main (edit: ONLY) determinants as to the type of experience one will have with a psychedelic substance.


    Set and setting vary with each experience. No matter how hard you may strive to replicate a good experience, you will find yourself bedevilled by set and setting because even if you can duplicate the entire scenario, you still will not be able to completely mimic your 'set'. Your setting, yes....


    Think of set and setting as pre-loaded 'programs' which determine the possibilities and parameters of each trip.

    One, (setting) is under your conscious control, you decide where to have the experience, when you'll have it, etc...

    the other, (set) is not fully under conscious control, as you may have underlying anger about the argument you had with your girl/guy friend or doubts about decisions, job, etc...

    These are the real reasons for what happens on a psychedelic experience.
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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    Quote Originally Posted by im1badpup
    could 2-4 times a week cause a chemical imbalance in the brain through residual buildup in my system?
    2-4 times a week is way too often. sure it can be done, but it shouldn't be done that often especially if you plan on using it long-term.

    out of the hundreds of times that swim has rolled, he's only ever had 1 bad roll that was a bad experience on pure mdxx and it was absolutely set and setting. for some reason swim's roll took hours to come on and by then everyone else was down. so swim came up and when he did he felt lonely, very sad, etc, this was many years ago and have never had that happen again.

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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    It can cause a chemical imbalance known as serotonin syndrome.


    Signs and symptoms include:

    * Agitation or restlessness
    * Confusion
    * Rapid heart rate
    * Dilated pupils
    * Loss of muscle coordination or twitching muscles
    * Heavy sweating
    * Diarrhea
    * Headache
    * Shivering
    * Goose bumps

    Severe serotonin syndrome can be life-threatening. Signs and symptoms include:

    * High fever
    * Seizures
    * Irregular heartbeat
    * Unconsciousness
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

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    Re: strange negative effects on mda?

    sorry about the late reply, been nailed to the couch with flu, and couldnt go out to sort internet connection.

    nph, spice thanks for the replies.

    i do agree nph in all honesty, 2-4 times a week, i was taking the piss with it a little lol

    spice, i use a toxicoligical chart/dose as described in pihkal when i dose and as symptoms appear (or dont) i increase or stop each time. its suprising how things like amount of food eaten, set - setting, or a hot day even effect physically and mentally the experience

    i very rarely ever mix any drug except cannabis with anything else

    i didnt actually realise at the time, id had the sniffles for a few days, and think maybe the most likely culprit would probably be flu, looking back now.

    so while feeling crap and sorry for myself lol, im giving a few month off from the lot, drop my tolerance to anything i do take back to 0. itll be good getting stoned on half a joint again, pissed on a few beers.. rolling on 100mg

    not all at once though..

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