Thread: high lsd dose

I just accidentally took 800 milligrams of acid and i am wondering if this dose can do any harm? i just took it 15 minutes ago and im worried the dose is too high....any suggestions?

Don't worry, a dose like this will not do any damage or anything.
But.. buckle your seatbelt. And don't expect to be back in 12 hours.

edit: i hope you mean ug and not milligrams.. if you're really talking about milligrams then I don't know..
But acid doesn't come in milligrams unless you've taken liquid acid.
If you're talking about 4 blotters or so (or more), I think you'll be ok

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml

If you are not experienced with high doses, maybe you want a good tripsitter you trust to watch you for safety. Just lay down and stay down, only walk when you have to pee.

I *think* you would already be tripping balls after 15 minutes if you had taken 800 mg. That's about a thumbprint.

People survived. Take care and don't call the ambulance just yet. Let us know what happened & if you are alright.

Let go yourself!

laugh, no matter what.

im still ok

^seeing that you can still interact with a computer I reckon you took 800 mics...

Good times...

Yeah, I was doing a double take at first.. ~8000 hits of acid? Damn, where do you get that much?

Have a great trip

When I took presicely 500 micrograms in liquid form, 4 drops at once, the physical energy was significant but nothing rushing, constructive thinking was shot to pieces. The most substantial contribution I could give myself at the peak was lying on bed with, and without music. Everything went to slow, but yet too fast for direct integration. Cars outside were a long-lasting stream of sound.

If your cardiovascular system is healthy, 800 ug will not harm, despite the shaking heart (which will be greatly present for certain at the dose you took), but...

The pitfall of a high dose is the processor of your brain which can get overloaded with information, leading to confusion in the demeanour. Just doing things without your own notice... walking, wanting to perform what crosses your mind directly etc.

The external environment should have minor influences on your sensory.

There's a lot of hardcore psychonauts who have done above the 1 milligram dose.. especially back in the era of strong blotter. As it has been communicated to me, at this kind of dose the trip really just comes to you

Personally I've never even been able to find that much acid at once in these parts. Perhaps someday though..

Originally Posted by Brugmansia

If your cardiovascular system is healthy, 800 ug will not harm, despite the shaking heart (which will be greatly present for certain at the dose you took), but...

what would be possible outcomes if your cardiovascular system is not healthy? in which way whatsoever.

I don't know, but blood pressure and heart rate is increased for certain. Especially with smoked DMT and a high dose of acid this becomes palpable, sometimes with cannabis too.

If someone is suffering with severe vasoconstriction or a bad heart, taking psychedelics might be not completely safe, but I'm not medically educated in this.

I only wish I could make a mistake like that

I don't know, but blood pressure and heart rate is increased for certain. Especially with smoked DMT and a high dose of acid this becomes palpable, sometimes with cannabis too.

haha

*sticks out tongue* Dutch weed.

Originally Posted by Brugmansia

If your cardiovascular system is healthy, 800 ug will not harm, despite the shaking heart (which will be greatly present for certain at the dose you took),

I experienced the shaking heart the first few times.

Earlier this year something new happened--I wanted to open a thread about this experience--in my now strongest trip with a dose really unknown: four previously tested blotters, strong enough to disappear the body for a eon and turn into a galactic amoeba in an underground room ridiculously large.

I am now verifying this information, innocent me(?), eight hours after ingestion I started dancing to psytrance and ended up doing some yoga poses in a half an hour session. Heart and breathing where tranquil, full and very powerful although body temperature was noticeably high. I experienced exstasy, damn I swear I was making two minutes fire exhalations, muscles connecting in U shaped serpents between all my legs and arms. I learned why some positions and transitions are made this or that way, latter confirmed with my teacher to my pleasant surprise.

I'll delve further into this but I ask you humans: do someone here thinks one should reserve such body activity for later on?


I swear I could feel the breath rytmic moving of my abs literally circulating some inter cellular fluid, activating nephrons and pushing with electricity high sky.

I am puzzled, because on the one hand I may have manage this activity because the dose was low enough, but, the tripping was just exceptional, my strongest ever: body/universe membrane completely destroyed at peak, I was the hallucination, and the hallucination was that which is.

I have continued to practice yoga on the afterglow ever since.

goodmorning im still here

it was 800 ug and not 800 milligrams obviously.(lol) Still it was a quite heavy , but beautiful experience and i came down bout 6 o clock this morning. I have slept only 3 hours and i feel fresh like a baby. I took liquid acid and thought i had overdosed myself which caused a very horrible start of the trip, after i posted here i called a friend and he stayed with me for the whole trip...without him i guess things could have gone wrong, because at some point i was unable to move and see what was happening around me for maybe some hours(?)

Im gonna write a tripreport now and eat some.

cheers

Welcome back!

Im gonna write a tripreport now and eat some.

I am curious, are you going to post it here?

Like mrvn said, i wish i would make a mistake like that. I could never choose to do it with my own will

Great to have you back!

Namaste!

Good to hear it went well! Lol what was I thinking. 800 milligrams guess I'm not an expert on this. I just saw nobody answered your post and thought you might launch soon, so I wanted to reassure you. srry if I startled you

Some experienced people say the right dose for a strong LSD trip is 1200 micrograms. Above that it doesn't get any stronger for nobody, but many people have obviously taken 1200 micrograms without harm.

I think LSD becomes physically dangerous in only much much higher doses, like in the gram area.

^

Based on the real world murder of lab animals the following results HAVE been published for LD50 studies of LSD-25:
(Please bear in mind that an oral LD50 is commonly 2 or 3X an intravenous LD50)

Mouse (intravenous)

46 mg/ kg (citing Rothlin & Cerletti (1957) Ann. NY Acad. Sci. 66: 66
65 mg/ kg (citing information provided by Sandoz Pharmaceuticals)

Rat (intravenous)

16.5 mg/ kg (citing Rothlin & Cerletti (1957) above)

I omitted the rabbit figures as rabbits are extremely overly sensitive to all the major hallucinogens except for mescaline and similar. Source for the above was Usdin & Efron (1979) Psychotropic Drugs and Related Compounds (2nd Edition).

Please also note the values above are given as mg/kg of body weight not as simple mg doses. They suggest a human dose, regardless of the route of administration, would be radically greater than 14 mg.

If averaging the low and high values above, the value obtained is ~41 mg/ kg of body weight. Since this is an IV value (& assuming people respond like rodents)an oral LD50 would likely be in excess of 80 mg/kg (Meaning it would take just over 5 grams for someone of my body weight).

Even taking the lowest figure (16 mg/kg) we still wind up with an LD50 of more than a gram of acid for a 65 kg human; even if using the IV figure as an oral one!

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml

LSD has a very wide safety margin

I omitted the rabbit figures as rabbits are extremely overly sensitive to all the major hallucinogens except for mescaline and similar

Originally Posted by st.bot.32

There's a lot of hardcore psychonauts who have done above the 1 milligram dose.. especially back in the era of strong blotter. As it has been communicated to me, at this kind of dose the trip really just comes to you

Personally I've never even been able to find that much acid at once in these parts. Perhaps someday though..

All of my lsd trips have always been above the 1 mg range. It's where I find myself most pleased at. Granted I still drive a car on the highways while on this and interact with society. Man, I never see people so scared for thier lives when they look at me.

^ :shock:

You drive a car at 1000 mics?!? That is either insane or you got some serious tolerance.

Sounds quite irresponsible

To me 500 ug at once was fine, but it shouldn't have been more either. Honestly I can say that I didn't knew what full synthesia was before that experience. The constant buzzing vibration, hearing certain noises like bleeps or zooms when looking at certain objects and feeling the head as a spaceship. The heart pulse clearly connected with the brain center.

The whole 'double-sided' eye-sight, literally seeing crawling grey climbing plants on the white wall, and chequered patterns on the floor rollin'. Big and small fluctuated a lot. Everything went 'slow'. Though all with a bright awareness that it was the acid. CEV's just silver and a white spectrum, though some lines purple and yellow. Completely different than 250, which was way more colourful and less physical. And even 375 (flowerpower!) was still more comparable with 250 than 500.

It was also the only and first time in where I felt the 'unprotected' half of LSD's chemical character, it made sense how it could destabilise one's identity area in a degenerate manner.

I wonder what would come out when crossing this amount, but to me it felt as this was more or less the maximum potency of acid as a classic psychedelic, I suspect the 625-1000 range would act more as a dissociative psychedelic. I like 250 ug the most, I don't have to let go entirely so keeping focus on the music, insights and CEV's goes pleasantly smooth.

If it is your first time, you will most likely freak out, but after the tough part is over you'll love it. I think everybody has trouble with psychedelics when they first journey into new territory (new drug, very deep dose that rockets you to a level you've never been to before, etc...), it's the anxiety over the unknown. However, acid lasts a long time, and after that very intense time (much easier if you accept it), you'll ride out the next 10 hours of your trip. Have fun.